Is the Sine Rule Valid for Non-Triangular Vector Configurations?

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The discussion revolves around the application of the sine rule in vector configurations that do not form a triangle. The original poster presents a scenario involving three vectors with specific magnitudes and questions the validity of the sine rule in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the sine rule to a situation where three vectors are in equilibrium, questioning whether the rule is valid outside of triangular configurations. Some participants suggest that the sine of the angles must be considered in the application of the rule.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of applying the sine rule to non-triangular setups. There is acknowledgment of a potential oversight regarding the sine of the angles, indicating a productive direction for further exploration.

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The original poster's scenario assumes that the vectors sum to zero, which introduces specific constraints on the angles and magnitudes involved. The inquiry raises questions about the foundational assumptions of vector addition and the sine rule's applicability.

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If magnitudes of vector a,b and c are 1,2,3 respectively and vectors a+b+c=0 then it is obvious that a and b will be in the opposite direction to c therefore cancelling it out but let's assume for a moment that we don't know this and we want to figure this out using the sine rule- then x/3 = y/2 = z/1 where z is the angle between b and c (opposite to a), x is the angle between a and b; and so on, also x+y+z=2pi from the figure (like three forces in equilibrium)-solving gives x equal to sixty degrees which is incorrect.
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Is the sine rule obeyed only when the vectors form a triangle then?

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Krushnaraj Pandya said:
then x/3 = y/2 = z/1
You forgot to take the sine of the angles.
 
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oh god, this is what happens when I study math all day. Thank you very much for your patience and help
 
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