Is the Speed of Sound Affected by Gravity?

  • Context: High School 
  • Thread starter Thread starter cottonkat5
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Gravity Sound
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion clarifies that sound waves are affected by gravity primarily through the force equation F=mg, which influences the movement of molecules. While gravity warps space-time and affects light waves, the impact on sound waves is mainly due to gravitational force acting on mass-bearing molecules. The curvature of space-time has a negligible effect on sound waves in low-density gravitational fields like Earth's. Therefore, sound and light waves experience gravity differently, with sound being influenced by gravitational stresses in the medium.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of general relativity and its implications on wave behavior
  • Familiarity with the equation F=mg and its application to mass
  • Basic knowledge of sound wave propagation in different media
  • Concept of gravitational lensing and its effect on light waves
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the principles of general relativity and their application to different types of waves
  • Explore the effects of gravitational fields on sound wave propagation in various media
  • Study the relationship between tension in strings and sound wave frequency
  • Investigate how gravitational stresses can influence wave behavior in different environments
USEFUL FOR

Physicists, acoustics researchers, and anyone interested in the interaction between gravity and wave phenomena, particularly in the context of sound and light.

cottonkat5
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Sorry if this is in the wrong thread (my first time posting),

I know that light is affected by gravity (gravitational lensing), but is sound affected in the same way?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The effect of gravity on a light wave is explained by general relativity, because gravity warps space-time.
Before general relativity, we had the equation F=mg, but of course light waves don't have mass, so this is why relativity was an important shift in the understanding of gravity.
Sound waves are made by the movement of molecules, these molecules have mass. so gravity effects sound waves in 2 ways: 1) F=mg causes the molecules to be pulled towards the source of the gravitational field. 2) the curvature of space-time has a similar effect on sound waves as it does on light waves.
For gravity sources with comparatively low density (such as the earth), the effect of gravity on the curvature of space-time is much smaller than the effect due to F=mg.
So, for sound waves, F=mg is the main effect of gravity on the molecules, but for light waves, the curvature of space-time is the effect of gravity.
Therefore sound and light waves are affected by gravity in different ways.
 
Actually, I think I am wrong. Gravity effects sound waves in only one way. And that can either be modeled by the theory that gravity warps space-time or the theory that gravity is a force. for sound, these two theories should give the same result.
But for light, the theory that says gravity is a force is incorrect. The theory saying that gravity warps space-time is correct for light waves.
therefore general relativity is correct for both types of waves, but F=mg only works for sound waves, (when the gravitational field isn't too large)
 
If we're talking about light and sound waves in the Earth's atmosphere, they are both bent towards the centre of the Earth because the density of the atmosphere is greater closer to the earth.
The effect of gravity on light and sound waves would be much less, but I think it would have the same effect
 
From a practical standpoint, where we care only about Earth's gravity...no. The molecules will experience the same gravitational force as they would when there is no sound wave at all.

The exception is a sound wave with an extremely long wavelength that could move particles considerably closer or further from a large mass.
 
Sound waves are vibrations in some medium (solid or fluid) and they are affected by the stress field in the medium. (Example - the speed of sound for transverse vibrations of a stretched string depends on the tension in the string, and therefore the vibration frequency depends on the tension).

So sound waves are affected by gravity is so far as gravity produce stresses.

Cleatly gravity CAN produce significant stresses in bodies, but there is not usually a simple relation between the stress field and the gravitational field that causes it. (Example - the tension in the string in the previous example could be produced by hanging a mass from one end of it).
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
500
  • · Replies 51 ·
2
Replies
51
Views
5K
  • · Replies 31 ·
2
Replies
31
Views
4K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 82 ·
3
Replies
82
Views
8K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
5K
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
3K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
26K