Is the Sum of Two Cauchy Sequences Also Cauchy?

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Homework Statement


Assume [itex]x_n[/itex] and [itex]y_n[/itex] are Cauchy sequences.
Give a direct argument that [itex]x_n+y_n[/itex] is Cauchy.
That does not use the Cauchy criterion or the algebraic limit theorem.
A sequence is Cauchy if for every [itex]\epsilon>0[/itex] there exists an
[itex]N\in \mathbb{N}[/itex] such that whenever [itex]m,n\geq N[/itex]
it follows that [itex]|a_n-a_m|< \epsilon[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Lets call [itex]x_n+y_n=c_n[/itex]
now we want to show that [itex]|c_m-c_n|< \epsilon[/itex]
Let's assume for the sake of contradiction that
[itex]c_m-c_n> \epsilon[/itex]
so we would have
[itex]|x_m+y_m-x_n-y_n|> \epsilon[/itex]
[itex]x_m> \epsilon+y_n-y_m[/itex]
since [itex]y_n>y_m[/itex]
and we know that [itex]x_m< \epsilon[/itex]
so this is a contradiction and the original statement must be true.
 
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cragar said:

Homework Statement


Assume [itex]x_n[/itex] and [itex]y_n[/itex] are Cauchy sequences.
Give a direct argument that [itex]x_n+y_n[/itex] is Cauchy.
That does not use the Cauchy criterion or the algebraic limit theorem.
A sequence is Cauchy if for every [itex]\epsilon>0[/itex] there exists an
[itex]N\in \mathbb{N}[/itex] such that whenever [itex]m,n\geq N[/itex]
it follows that [itex]|a_n-a_m|< \epsilon[/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution


Lets call [itex]x_n+y_n=c_n[/itex]
now we want to show that [itex]|c_m-c_n|< \epsilon[/itex]

It's always good to be careful with wording. We want to show that if n and m are big enough, that this inequality holds.

since [itex]y_n>y_m[/itex]
This is probably not true, especially since you haven't even said what n and m are besides arbitrary numbers!

and we know that [itex]x_m< \epsilon[/itex]

This is also probably not true since there's no reason to think the limit is zero

To get the contradiction you're going to want to use the triangle inequality on |(xn-xm)+(yn-ym)|
 
ok thanks for your response.
So I take [itex]|(x_n-x_m)+(y_n-y_m)| \leq |x_n-x_m|+|y_n-y_m|[/itex]
let's assume that [itex]|x_n-x_m|+|y_n-y_m| > \epsilon[/itex]
I am going to rewrite it as [itex]A+B> \epsilon[/itex]
so now we have [itex]A> \epsilon -B[/itex]
Can I just say this since we know that [itex]A< \epsilon[/itex] and [itex]B< \epsilon[/itex] since [itex]\epsilon[/itex] can be any number bigger than zero, then both of these values should be less than [itex]\frac{\epsilon}{2}[/itex]
therefore [itex]A+B< \epsilon[/itex]
I have a feeling my last step is not ok
 
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cragar said:
Can I just say this since we know that [itex]A< \epsilon[/itex] and [itex]B< \epsilon[/itex] since [itex]\epsilon[/itex] can be any number bigger than zero, then both of these values should be less than [itex]\frac{\epsilon}{2}[/itex]
therefore [itex]A+B< \epsilon[/itex]

This is the crux of the argument. It's not the whole proof of course - A and B aren't always that small. Feel free to post a full proof if you want it checked over for errors
 
Ok , Am I thinking about this in the right way.
 
Well, I can't read your mind but the part I quoted is the basis of the a correct argument for the proof. You just have to add the fact that these are sequences - A and B aren't always that small, but as long as n and m are big enough they are (by definition of the x's and the y's forming Cauchy sequences)
 

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