Is the torque of a couple equal to the resultant torque?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of torque in a system where a couple is present. Participants are exploring whether the torque generated by a couple is equivalent to the resultant torque of the entire system, which includes both couples and individual forces.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants question the clarity of the original poster's inquiry regarding the relationship between the torque of a couple and the resultant torque. Others provide examples involving forces and couples to illustrate their points, while also seeking clarification on how to approach the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and examples to clarify the concepts involved. There is an exploration of different interpretations of the problem, and some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of moments in a force-couple system.

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Participants note that the original poster's question may lack specificity, and there is a suggestion to provide a specific example for further discussion. The conversation also touches on the independence of the moment of a couple from the point about which it is calculated.

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If the only forces acting in a system are a couple, will the torque of the couple be the resultant torque of the sytem?


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I don't believe this is a homework question, and that you are are just asking a general physics question. But to be sure, please indicate your thoughts on this. I believe you are asking if only one couple acts on a system, say a 10 N upward force and an equal and opposite 10 N downward force located 2 meters away from the upward force, then is the couple of 20 N-m the resultant torque on the system and that there is no resultant force per se?
 
This question is part of my homework. I am asking if the resultant torque in a system is equal to the sum of all of the torques or moments of the forces such as those from couples or from individual forces in the system.
 
Andy21 said:
This question is part of my homework. I am asking if the resultant torque in a system is equal to the sum of all of the torques or moments of the forces such as those from couples or from individual forces in the system.
OK, thank you.

Your question is bit unclear, so I hope my response is also not unclear.

Consider a horizontal massless rod (the system) of length 10 m that is subject to a force of 5N acting down at 3 m from the left of the rod, and a couple of 25 N-m acting clockwise at 7 meters from the left end of the rod. This force-couple system produces a moment about the left end of (5)(3) + 25 = 40 N-m. This moment is independent of the location of the 25 N-m couple. This 40 N-m moment is equivalent to the moment of the 5 N force acting 8 m from the left end. This 5 N force acting 8 m from the left end is the resultant of the force-couple system. Note that you don't have to sum moments about the left end to get the resultant force. You should prove this to yourself by summing moments about any point in the system, to achieve the same result. You might want to post a specific example problem you have in mind, and show your work, for further comment.
 
Hey... The moment of a torque is very interesting. However, i am confused as to Couples. Does the moment of a couple depend on the point about which it is rotated? How do I determine this?
 

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