Is there a connection between pi and e in this equation?

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The discussion centers around a mathematical equation involving exponential functions and its potential connection to the mathematical constants pi and e. Participants explore whether the proximity of the solution to pi is coincidental or indicative of a deeper relationship, considering both theoretical and exploratory perspectives.

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  • One participant presents an equation that yields a solution very close to pi, questioning whether this is a coincidence or has a deeper explanation.
  • Another participant suggests exploring other functions to see if similar results occur, indicating a potential pattern related to pi.
  • A different participant expresses skepticism about the significance of the finding, suggesting it may be coincidental while also providing a method for others to test the claim.
  • One participant proposes that the equation might represent a term in an infinite series or iteration related to pi, though this remains speculative.
  • Another participant raises the possibility that if a connection exists, it could imply that pi and e are not algebraically independent, which is a topic of ongoing mathematical inquiry.

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Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views on whether the proximity of the solution to pi is coincidental or indicative of a deeper mathematical relationship.

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Some assumptions about the nature of the functions and their relationships to pi and e are not fully explored, and the mathematical steps leading to the conclusions are not resolved.

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Almost pi ...

What is the solution to:

[tex]\mbox{ $\frac{1}{2}$}\ \mbox{\Huge e}^{\ \frac{1}{2}X^2}\ -\ 2\ \mbox{\Huge e}^{\ 2X^{1/2}}\ =\ \left(\frac{1}{2} \right)^2}[/tex]
Answer: x = 3.1415935362596164657060129064942...

Almost pi, the difference is only 2.8 10-7.
Now, is this a coincidence or is there an explanation?
Regards, Hans
 
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You should look at other examples to guess what the answer is.
Try solving:

f(x)-f(1/x) = (1/x)^x

for different functions f, and see how often youget near to pi.
 
That's an interesting find hans. I'd say it's just coincidence but I'd be very interested to see any other ideas on this.

BTW. For anyone wanting to solve the equation for themselves and test han's claim, it is amendable to fix-point iteration as in :

x = sqrt( 2 log( 1/2 + 4 exp(2 sqrt(x) ) ) )

BTW. It's actually more like [tex]8.8 \times 10^{-7}[/tex] away from Pi, but it's still pretty close. :)
 
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One can say that this is just a first term of some infinite series or iteration for pi we don't know about.
 
Some amazing rapidly converging one too, but I doubt it. If a forum like us can realize this, surely mathematicians would have. And I know they haven't because this would prove pi and e are not algebraically independent, which is an open problem.
 

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