Is there a general formula for solving cubic equations?

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The discussion revolves around solving a cubic equation presented by a participant, with a focus on whether there is a general formula for cubic equations. The conversation includes attempts to clarify the nature of the equation and the methods for solving it, as well as sharing resources related to cubic solutions.

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  • One participant presents the equation -2m2w3 + 15Bmw2 - 27B2 = 0 and asks for help in solving for w, inquiring about a general formula for cubic equations.
  • Another participant confirms that there is a general formula for cubic equations but notes it is more complex than that for quadratic equations, questioning whether the original equation is indeed cubic due to the presence of w^2.
  • A different participant suggests rearranging the terms to solve for w, indicating a potential misunderstanding of the equation's degree.
  • After a clarification, it is acknowledged that the first term should be cubed, confirming the equation is cubic.
  • Participants discuss the existence of a well-known formula and procedure for solving cubic equations, with one participant offering to share pages from a math handbook on the topic.
  • There are mentions of difficulties in sharing resources, including issues with the resolution of scanned documents and file uploads, leading to a participant rewriting the method and generating a new PDF for clarity.

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Participants generally agree that there is a formula for solving cubic equations, but there is some confusion regarding the initial equation's degree, which is clarified later. The discussion includes multiple viewpoints on how to approach the problem and share resources, indicating a collaborative effort to resolve the inquiry.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of the original equation due to a typo, which initially led to confusion about its degree. The discussion also reflects challenges in sharing mathematical resources effectively.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in solving cubic equations, understanding the complexities involved, and those looking for resources on mathematical methods and procedures.

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Hi, I've been trying to solve this equation for hours no, hoping somebody here can help.
I have the equation: -2m2w3 + 15Bmw2 - 27B2 = 0

where m, B are unknown constants and I'm trying to solve for w. Is there a general formula for solving cubic equations?

Thanks in advance.
 
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dfitz1000 said:
Is there a general formula for solving cubic equations?

Yes, there is. However, it is more complicated than the solution for a quadratic equation. You can look it up in a math handbook, or google it.

By the way, is your equation cubic? You show only powers w^2, but maybe you have a typo.
 
If you are trying to solve for w, all you need to do here is rearrange the terms no?

-2m2w2 + 15Bmw2 - 27B2 = 0

Add 27B2 to both sides

-2m2w2 + 15Bmw2 = 27B2

factor w2

w2 ( -2m2 + 15Bm) = 27B2

Divide by ( -2m2 + 15Bm) --- make sure it is not 0 you need to account for this.

w2 = 27B2 / (-2m2 + 15Bm)

Now take the square root of both sides...
 
dfitz1000 said:
Hi, I've been trying to solve this equation for hours no, hoping somebody here can help.
I have the equation: -2m2w2 + 15Bmw2 - 27B2 = 0

where m, B are unknown constants and I'm trying to solve for w. Is there a general formula for solving cubic equations?

Thanks in advance.
Is there a typo somewhere? The topic title suggests you want to know how to solve a cubic equation, but the equation you gave is quadratic in w.
 
Sorry, yes indeed there was a typo, the first term should have been cubed rather than squared.:redface:
 
dfitz1000 said:
Sorry, yes indeed there was a typo, the first term should have been cubed rather than squared.:redface:

Yes, I figured that was what is was supposed to be. There is a well know formula and procedure to solve cubic equations.
 
elect_eng said:
... There is a well know formula and procedure to solve cubic equations.

Here are a few pages from my math handbook on cubic solutions.
 

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Thanks elect_eng...the scan is quite hard to read but I think I got it...much appreciated.
 
dfitz1000 said:
Thanks elect_eng...the scan is quite hard to read but I think I got it...much appreciated.

Sorry about the poor resolution. I tried a higher resolution picture and it wouldn't upload. I'll try again tonight just to make sure that you have a good copy. I'll make two separate files - one for each page.
 
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dfitz1000 said:
Thanks elect_eng...the scan is quite hard to read but I think I got it...much appreciated.

Sorry, I took longer than expected to post a better version. I don't know why I had trouble uploading PDFs because my files were smaller than the posted limit. To bypass this trouble, I just rewrote the method and generated my own PDF. This is not a bitmaped PDF, and is hence much smaller in size. It's now all on one page and this makes a nice handy reference sheet.
 

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