Is there a mistake in my non-commutative binomial expansion for (A+B)^3?

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The discussion revolves around the non-commutative binomial expansion of the expression (A+B)^3, where A and B do not commute. The original poster presents their expansion attempt and compares it with an alternative result found in online sources.

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  • The original poster attempts to expand (A+B)^3 and questions the equivalence of their result with a different expression found online. Some participants explore the conditions under which the alternative result holds true.

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Participants are examining the assumptions necessary for the different forms of the expansion to be valid. There is acknowledgment of the need for A and B to commute with their commutator for the alternative expression to apply. Guidance has been offered regarding the conditions required for the equivalence of the two results.

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There is a reference to specific conditions involving the commutation relations of A and B, particularly when [A,B] equals a complex number. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their expansion and seeks clarification on the discrepancies.

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Homework Statement


Well, I was trying to expand say for the third power of (A+B), where A and B are non-commutative.

The Attempt at a Solution



I get

[tex](A+B)^3=(A^2+AB+BA+B^2)(A+B)=A^3+ABA+BA^2+B^2A+A^2B+AB^2+BAB+B^3[/tex]

but from a few sources online, it should be

[tex](A+B)^3=(A^3+3A^2B+3AB^2+B^3)-3(AB-BA)(A+B)[/tex]

Now, these 2 results don't seem to be equivalent and I have checked this by expanding it myself. I have been thinking for quite some time about what is wrong with my answer but I seem to be getting nowhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Your answer is correct. I don't see you can get the second result without some extra condition on A and B.
 
the larger problem at hand is actually this:

http://www.voofie.com/content/103/proving-the-identity-eab-e-lambda2-ea-eb-if-ablambda/

and similarly

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2796908

The question is to prove that

[tex]e^{\mu(A+B)}=e^{\mu A}e^{\mu B}e^{-\mu^2 [A,B]}[/tex]-equation 1

, where [tex]\mu[/tex] is some complex number.

in the first post in the pf thread in the link above, the user got the following

Notation I use: C^n = (A+B)^n respecting order, c^n = (a+b)^n with all A's before B's.
e.g.: (A+B)^2 = AA + AB +BA + BB, and (a+b)^2 = AA + 2AB + BB
(A+B)^0 = I
(A+B)^1 = A+B
(A+B)^2 = (a+b)^2 - k
(A+B)^3 = (a+b)^3 - 3k(A+B)
(A+B)^4 =(a+b)^4 - 6k(a+b)^2 + 3k^2
(A+B)^5 =(a+b)^5 - 10k(a+b)^3 + 15k^2(a+b)
(A+B)^6=(a+b)^6 - 15k(a+b)^4 + 45k^2(a+b)^2 - 15k^3

, where [A,B]=k

and similarly the other user in the other link had the same results. Additionally, when I expanded the RHS in equation 1 with respect to [tex]\mu[/tex], I got the same results for power 3 that the 2 users got. But when I tried to expand the LHS in a power series, I did not get the RHS and I got results similar the my first post in this thread.
 
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Oh, OK. You need the assumption that A and B both commute with [A,B], which is indeed true if [A,B]=k where k is a complex number. In that case, you can show that

[tex] (A+B)^3=(A^3+3A^2B+3AB^2+B^3)-3[A,B](A+B)-[2A+B,[A,B]]=(A^3+3A^2B+3AB^2+B^3)-3[A,B](A+B)[/tex]
 
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ahh I see many thanks
 

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