Is There a More Efficient Method for Solving This Inverse Laplace Transform?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the inverse Laplace transform of the expression \( \frac{3s + 9}{(s+3)^2 + 7} \). Participants explore different methods for solving the problem, including the use of partial fractions and reference to tables of Laplace transforms. The context includes homework assistance and clarification of mathematical notation.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about using the partial fractions method and whether it complicates the problem.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the expression's formatting to ensure correct interpretation of the equation.
  • A suggestion is made to derive the inverse Laplace transform via definition or to recognize its form from a table of transforms.
  • Some participants mention the usefulness of Wikipedia's table of Laplace transforms for finding matches to the given expression.
  • There is a reference to the Cauchy Residue Theorem potentially being relevant for integration in this context.
  • One participant notes that they found a match in the Wikipedia table, suggesting it resembles an exponentially decaying cosine function.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to reference tables of Laplace transforms, but there is no consensus on the best method to approach the problem or the interpretation of the original expression. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most efficient method for solving the inverse Laplace transform.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of the original expression due to formatting issues, and participants express differing opinions on the appropriate method for solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


Determine the inverse Laplace transform

Homework Equations


3s+9/(s+3)^2+7

The Attempt at a Solution


Converted to 3s+9/s^2+6s+16 to try and use the partial fractions method but getting nowhere.

I'm Not sure if Iam making the question more difficult, can't seem to put the division side of the equestion into brackets.

Attempt was (s-2)(s+8) but that results in s^2+6s-16 resulting in an incorrect sign. Can't seem to change the signs to make it correct.

Not sure if partial fractions method is the best method or if I'm making it more difficult than it is.

Any advice much appreciated.
 
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Please use more parentheses (brackets) to make the order of operations in your expressions clear. Is that:

##3s + \frac{9}{(s+3)^2} + 7##

or

##3s + \frac{9}{(s+3)^2 + 7}##

or

##\frac{3s + 9}{(s+3)^2} + 7##

or

##\frac{3s + 9}{(s+3)^2 + 7}##

or something else again?
 
Sorry not posted many threads and not familiar with the way you have written the equation so well. The last equation.

3s + 9.
(s+3)^2+7
 
casper12 said:
Sorry not posted many threads and not familiar with the way you have written the equation so well. The last equation.

3s + 9.
(s+3)^2+7
Okay. The syntax used to display equations is LaTeX syntax. You can find some information on LaTeX by following the link at the bottom left of the Reply edit window (? LaTeX / BBcode Guides).

Are you expected to derive the inverse Laplace transform for this expression via the definition, or merely recognize its form and look it up in a table of inverse transforms? If you need to derive it, I think you would do well to take this to the Calculus & Beyond homework forum as it will involve integrating a complex function and taking limits. I suspect that the Cauchy Residue Theorem will come into play for finding the integral.
 
I agree with gneill. If you had ##\frac{s}{s^2+7}##, would you be able to find its inverse in a tables of laplace transforms?
 
The question is asking for the inverse Laplace transform of the equation using the table of Laplace transforms, all the ones completed in the workbook at not of this format so difficult to find a similar method to calculate. I have posted the question where you recommended, thank you for your help.
 
casper12 said:
The question is asking for the inverse Laplace transform of the equation using the table of Laplace transforms, all the ones completed in the workbook at not of this format so difficult to find a similar method to calculate. I have posted the question where you recommended, thank you for your help.

If you go to the Wikipedia page on Laplace Transforms, you will find a match in their table :wink:
 
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Thanks for the Wikipedia info just seen the table which includes a lot more Laplace transforms than the info provided in the workbook. Looking at this it looks something like
3 x e-3t cos wt
any further advice would be much appreciated as I believe I may have wasted a lot of time on this question.

Thanks
 
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casper12 said:
Thanks for the Wikipedia info just seen the table which includes a lot more Laplace transforms than the info provided in the workbook. Looking at this it looks something like
3 x e-3t cos wt
any further advice would be much appreciated as I believe I may have wasted a lot of time on this question.

Thanks
Yes, it's an exponentially decaying cosine. The Wikipedia tables can be quite handy.

Is there anything further you need to do with this question?
 

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