Is There an Absolute Time When Events Occur?

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The forum discussion centers on the concept of absolute time in relation to the theory of relativity, particularly the relativity of simultaneity. Participants argue that while events occur in the universe, their timing is subjective and dependent on the observer's frame of reference. Key points include the finite speed of light affecting how events are perceived and the distinction between spacelike and timelike events, where only timelike events maintain a consistent causal order. Ultimately, the consensus is that there is no absolute time or ordering of events that all observers can agree upon.

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goodensn said:
If an observer witnesses an event (Event A) and is at distance of zero (d=0) from Event A, then that is the TRUE time the event occurred.

goodensn said:
but surely every event that happens in the Universe occurs at an absolute time (even though we may all disagree on when that time was).

goodensn said:
there must be an absolute truth on the order of events that occur throughout the universe.

goodensn said:
BUT...there still must be an absolute ordering of all events in the universe.
You keep saying this must be true without giving any reason why it must be true!

goodensn said:
I guess it is tempting to believe that there IS a true ordering of events even if observers disagree.
What is "tempting" is not always right!
 
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If the speed of light can be measured by us and we define the figure to this end
1760 yards = 1 mile
10 times the speed of light
17600 yards = 10 miles
some things can happen so fast A,B,C don't know ass from elbow
if things can be attributed a measurement then it follows multi pulls of said
item can be multiplied David Stuart Jones QED
 
  • #33
Well.. who would be right :)
 

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