Is There an N Where n > N Implies Sn > a in a Convergent Sequence?

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of convergent sequences, specifically that for a convergent sequence \( S_n \) with a limit greater than a certain value \( a \), there exists a number \( N \) such that for all \( n > N \), \( S_n > a \).

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the definition of limits in the context of convergent sequences and how it relates to the given condition \( \lim S_n > a \). They discuss the choice of epsilon and its implications for establishing the existence of \( N \). Questions arise about the appropriateness of different epsilon values and their relationship to the distance between the limit and \( a \).

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches to selecting epsilon and discussing the implications of their choices. Some guidance has been provided regarding the selection of epsilon, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing examination of the definitions and properties of limits in the context of convergent sequences, particularly regarding the relationship between the limit and the value \( a \). Participants are also considering the implications of their assumptions about convergence and distance in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Let Sn be a convergent sequence and the limit of Sn > a. Prove that there exists a number N such that when n > N implies Sn > a


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This one does not seem to have a point to me. By definition when n > N the sequence is epsilon close to a and they tell us the limit is greater than a so once n>N we are close to the lim of Sn so we must be above a. Am I missing something?
 
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Say lim Sn=b. And b>a. Just use the distance from b to a to make a particular choice of an epsilon.
 
I would let epsilon be less than distance between a and b where b = lim Sn. With that selected as my epsilon can I use the fact that Sn being convergen means it can be slower than d(a,b) therefore that N exists?
 
Well, yes. Pick e.g. epsilon=|b-a|/2. Now write out the proof.
 
I think I got it now, my one question is why can't i just say epsilon less than d(a,b). That way when I say Sn is convergent b - epsilon is still bigger than a. You have d(a,b)/2. I thnk for the same reason but i might be overlooking something. Thanks for your help.
 
No reason why you couldn't. If b= lim Sn> a, and \epsilon= d(a,b)= b-a then there exist N such that if n>N then |Sn-a|< \epsilon= b-a. Then -(b-a)= a- b< b- Sn< b-a so, subtracting b from each part a- 2b< -Sn< -a. Multiplying each part by -1, 2b-a> Sn> a.
 

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