Is there something wrong with this wave concept?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between wavelength, frequency, and wave speed in a uniform medium, as presented in two related problems. Participants explore how changes in wavelength affect frequency and speed, referencing the equations governing wave behavior.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of increasing wavelength on frequency and speed, with some questioning the assumption that frequency remains constant. There is an exploration of the inverse relationship between wavelength and frequency, as well as the role of the medium in determining wave speed.

Discussion Status

Several participants have provided insights into the relationship between wavelength and frequency, with some clarifying that wave speed is constant in a uniform medium. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the conditions under which frequency can change, particularly in relation to refraction.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of wave behavior, particularly the distinction between uniform media and scenarios involving refraction, which may affect their understanding of frequency and speed relationships.

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Homework Statement



1. As the wavelength of a wave in a uniform medium increases, its speed will _____.

a. decrease


b. increase


c. remain the same


2. As the wavelength of a wave in a uniform medium increases, its frequency will _____.

a. decrease


b. increase


c. remain the same


Homework Equations



v = λf
f = 1/T
v = λ/T


The Attempt at a Solution



1. I answered B, increase, but it says the answer is C.

2. I answered C, because I know frequency does not change; only the wavelength changes. But then, the answer says it decreases because the wavelength and frequency are inversely proportional.
 
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Problem 2 is kind of the answer to problem 1. Since the velocity is constant*frequency*wavelength, if the wavelength goes down the frequency goes up to compensate. The wave still travels with respect to the speed of light in the medium.
 
Mindscrape said:
Problem 2 is kind of the answer to problem 1. Since the velocity is constant*frequency*wavelength, if the wavelength goes down the frequency goes up to compensate. The wave still travels with respect to the speed of light in the medium.
But I am confused at the moment because what I read is that frequency of a wave does not change, only the wavelength :|.
 
Frequency is number of waves per second, so if the length of a wave gets smaller then more waves will fit in one second time.
 
The wave speed is determined by the medium. So, if the medium doesn't change, the speed can't either.

You are confused because you are thinking of *refraction* in which the wave goes from one medium to another different medium. In this case, the wave speed can change at the interface (because the medium has changed), but the frequency cannot change at the interface, becuase if it did, you would be magically gaining or losing wavefronts.
 
cepheid said:
The wave speed is determined by the medium. So, if the medium doesn't change, the speed can't either.

You are confused because you are thinking of *refraction* in which the wave goes from one medium to another different medium. In this case, the wave speed can change at the interface (because the medium has changed), but the frequency cannot change at the interface, becuase if it did, you would be magically gaining or losing wavefronts.
Oh I get it now lol. The answer I was looking for :P. thx
 
Mindscrape said:
Frequency is number of waves per second, so if the length of a wave gets smaller then more waves will fit in one second time.
Yeah makes sense. thanks!
 

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