Is this a simple harmonic question or no?

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The problem involves a particle moving along the x-axis influenced by a force proportional to its distance from the origin. The particle starts from rest at 10 cm and reaches 5 cm in 2 seconds. The task is to determine the position at any time, as well as the amplitude, period, and frequency of the motion.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the problem, questioning whether it qualifies as simple harmonic motion. Some suggest the need for additional information, such as the equilibrium position or spring constant, while others argue that the force law indicates harmonic behavior. There is also debate about the significance of the amplitude and the equation of motion provided.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants offer insights into the characteristics of simple harmonic motion and the implications of the force law, while others express uncertainty about the problem's wording and necessary parameters.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of a spring in the problem statement, yet emphasize that the proportionality of force to displacement is sufficient to suggest harmonic motion. There is an acknowledgment of the need for clarity regarding the equilibrium position and the implications of the particle's initial conditions.

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Is this a simple harmonic question or no??

Homework Statement


a particle moves on the x-axis under the influence of a force, proportional to its distance from the origin, attracting it toward the origin. The particle starts from rest @x=10cm and reaches x=5cm in 2 seconds for the first time. What is the position t at any time after it starts movin, the amplitude, period and frequency of the motion.


Homework Equations



T=1/(omega), x=Acos(kx-omega t)

The Attempt at a Solution


I believe the amplitude of the system to be 10 cm simply because that is what the particle starts at, the equation of motion seems to be simple harmonic since it will go and come in a rhythmic pattern. Other than that i don't quite understand how to figure the rest of the problem
 
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At first glance this problem isn't worded well. You need to know the equilibrium position or the spring constant before you can solve this thing.
 


there is no spring at all mentioned in this problem...only that a force proportional to its distance from the origin is applied to the particle.
 


It's a harmonic oscillator based on the force law. You're given the velocity at two values of the position, which is unorthodox, but I believe enough to solve for the frequency and amplitude.
 


tarletontexan said:
there is no spring at all mentioned in this problem...only that a force proportional to its distance from the origin is applied to the particle.
It doesn't matter whether there's actually a spring there or not. What's important is that the force is proportional to displacement from the equilibrium position and attracts the particle toward equilibrium. A spring is just one example of a system that produces this kind of force, but it's the most common one, so we call the proportionality constant between force and displacement the "spring constant" even when there is no actual spring involved.
tarletontexan said:
I believe the amplitude of the system to be 10 cm simply because that is what the particle starts at,
You're right that the amplitude is 10 cm, but that's not just because the particle starts at that point. The particle's speed has to be zero when it is at its amplitude.
tarletontexan said:
the equation of motion seems to be simple harmonic since it will go and come in a rhythmic pattern.
As fzero said, the reason it is simple harmonic is because the force is attractive and proportional to displacement. That's all you need to know that you're dealing with a simple harmonic oscillator.

What else do you know about simple harmonic oscillators? Hint: the equation
tarletontexan said:
x=Acos(kx-omega t)
is almost correct. If you fix it, you should be able to use it to find all the other quantities you're asked for.
 

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