Is this a typo? - Integral of fraction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a potential typo in a mathematical integral problem, specifically regarding the integral of a fraction. Participants explore whether the problem as presented contains errors and share their thoughts on how to approach solving it. The conversation includes hints, corrections, and reflections on the difficulty of the problem in the context of an exam.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the problem may contain a typo, while others argue that it is solvable as presented.
  • A participant proposes rearranging the polynomial in the numerator to facilitate division by the denominator.
  • Another participant mentions differentiating the numerator and notes that it results in the denominator, indicating a possible simplification.
  • Concerns are raised about the low marks assigned to the problem, leading to speculation about its complexity.
  • One participant reflects on their previous attempts at solving the integral and expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their work.
  • There are discussions about the use of mixed numbers versus improper fractions in the context of the solution, with a suggestion to avoid mixed numbers for clarity.
  • A participant questions the validity of a previous step in the solution, asking if the denominators have vanished and suggesting a check by differentiation.
  • Another participant acknowledges a mistake in their calculations and expresses a desire to revisit the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the problem contains a typo. Multiple competing views remain regarding the solvability and correctness of the integral presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about specific steps in their calculations and the appropriateness of their approaches, indicating that there may be unresolved mathematical details.

Who May Find This Useful

Students preparing for exams in mathematics or those interested in integral calculus may find this discussion relevant.

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Part (1) of this question posted in post 3. Is it a type-o or correct. Not looking for solution.
 
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Yes, it appears to be so, from what I can see.
 
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What is a type-o? Or do you think it is a typo? Then type-o probably is a typo.
The integrals look ok so far.
 
Hint for part i): Try to rearrange ##6x^2-5x+3## into some polynome your can divide by ##12x-5## plus a constant.
 
Ya I differentiated the top and you get 12x-5 all over 12x-5.
 
Ah I see. Could be a typo. But this integral should be solvable as well.
 
Part 1&2 only worth 4% on exam paper. Seem like a but of work for 2%
 
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Part 1&2 only worth 4% on exam paper. Seem like a but of work for 2%

Private theories are not allowed in this forum. :D But don't worry here. Sorry, I can only look at the math.
 
  • #11
Anthonyk, why would you think the problem has a typo? This is an easy integral - just divide the numerator by the denominator.
 
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Lecturer thinks it is because of the low mark. Looking back a previous exam papers made an assumption. If We are wrong I hold my hand up.
 
  • #13
Mark44 said:
Anthonyk, why would you think the problem has a typo? This is an easy integral - just divide the numerator by the denominator.

That's are far as I got I had x-1.
 
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Ya silly mistake by me.
 
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Wondering the the solution the this question is right or wrong ?
Thanks
 
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What happened in (4)? The denominators vanished?
Also, what happens if you differentiate your result? Do you get the initial fraction? This is often a very easy check you can always do if you are unsure.

The whole substitution is not helpful here. Posts 6 and 11 show the best approach.
 
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This solution is from class. We were given a reason why that were moved but I can remember.
When studying on my own I divided the polynomial but the devision didn't look right. I'll attempt it again and post later. Thanks.
 
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Looks right so far.
 
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@anthonyk2013, once you've made it past grade school arithmetic, it's not a good idea to write fractions as mixed numbers (such as you have in your work). Instead of ##1 \frac 1 {24}## or ##1 \frac {23} {24}##, you really should write these as improper fractions, 25/24 and 47/24. Mixed numbers such as the ones you wrote are much harder to work with and can easily be confused if not written very carefully.
 
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Ill finish later. Too many kids around[emoji86]
 
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Thanks for the reminder mark44. Long time since i was in grade school as you call it
 
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Latest attempt. Wondered if I'm right.
 
  • #25
Integrating x/2 gave x2/2?
And check what you have in the denominators and logs - but I guess those are just typos.
 
  • #26
Should be X2/4
 

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