Is This Approach to Linear Algebra Proof Correct?

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The discussion revolves around a proof in linear algebra concerning geometric vectors u, v, and w, where it is given that u is non-zero, and the dot and cross products of u with v and w are equal. The goal is to prove that v equals w.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the equality of dot products and cross products, questioning the assumption that angles between vectors are equal. They explore relationships involving magnitudes and angles, and some participants express uncertainty about their reasoning.

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Some participants have provided guidance on considering angles and magnitudes, while others have attempted to simplify the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the vectors, with no explicit consensus reached on the proof's correctness.

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Participants note the importance of not assuming equal angles between the vectors and discuss the implications of the derived equations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach, indicating a need for further clarification.

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Help!? Linear algebra proof

Homework Statement


Suppose that u,v,w are geometric vectors such that u\neq0,
u\cdotv=u\cdotw and uxv=uxw

Prove that v=w

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The Attempt at a Solution


So far, I'm not sure if this is correct
u\cdotv=u\cdotw
|u||v|cos\theta=|u||w|cos\theta
|v|=|u|uxv=uxw
|u||v|sin\theta\hat{(u\times v)}=|u||w|sin\theta\hat{(u\times w)}
|w|sin\theta\hat{(u\times v)}=|w|sin\theta\hat{(u\times w)}
\hat{(u\times v)}=\hat{(u\times w)}
therefore, v=w
 
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I think you're on the right track. One thing to keep in mind is that we can't assume a priori that the two angles are equal, so we're looking at

|u||v|\cos\theta_1 = |u||w|\cos\theta_2<br /> <br /> |v|\cos\theta_1 = |w|\cos\theta_2

Similarly,

|v|\sin\theta_1 = |w|\sin\theta_2

See what you can do from there
 


Thanks, i completely forgot bout the angles not being equal.
however, going with that i can only simplify it down to

\upsilon \cdot \upsilon = \omega \cdot \omega
 


so that shows the magnitudes are the same...
 


yeah, but that only encompasses magnitude not direction.
anyway i figured it out by using the various laws.

if, u · v = u · w
then, u · (v-w) = 0

if, u x v = u x w
then, u x (v-w) = 0

therefore, v-w is both orthogonal and parallel to the non zero vector u, hence v-w = 0
therefore v=w
 


once you have the magnitudes, it follows from either

but yeah that's heaps nicer
 

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