Is This Combination Rocket Concept Feasible? Share Your Thoughts!

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a rocket concept that utilizes antimatter as a propulsion source. Participants explore the theoretical implications, potential energy outputs, and practical challenges associated with such a technology, including storage and efficiency compared to existing propulsion systems.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a conceptual design for a rocket using antimatter and seeks feedback on its feasibility.
  • Another participant questions the source and storage of antimatter, highlighting current limitations in availability and practicality.
  • Some participants speculate on the potential thrust output of antimatter compared to plasma rockets, with one expressing uncertainty about the energy produced from small amounts of antimatter.
  • A participant argues that while antimatter could provide a significant energy yield, it is not an infinite source, clarifying the finite nature of stored antimatter.
  • Another participant suggests that a smaller storage size, like that of a scuba tank, could enhance acceleration without excessive fuel use, but acknowledges the challenges of achieving orbit.
  • One participant discusses the need for a working fluid to utilize the energy from the antimatter reaction effectively, emphasizing the importance of a nozzle for propulsion.
  • There is a contention regarding the speculative nature of the discussion, with some participants expressing skepticism about the engineering validity of the concept.
  • One participant asserts that imagination is a crucial part of engineering, while another criticizes the speculative nature of the thread, labeling it as "junk science."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some supporting the conceptual basis of the propulsion system while others criticize its feasibility and speculative nature. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the practicality of the proposed antimatter rocket concept.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the current lack of practical antimatter storage solutions, the speculative nature of energy outputs, and unresolved questions about the efficiency of the proposed propulsion system.

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I decided to draw this up when the idea came to me just so I could visualize it.
I am no rocket scientist so I thouhgt I would post the concept and get some feedback:
 

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and you were planning to get the anti-matter from ?
 
The lack of availability and means of small, light storage for anti-matter is why it is a concept only. I can imagine that at sometime in the future the cost may come down and availability higher to make it feasable.
What I would like to know is what the probability is that it would, in fact, produce more thrust than a plasma rocket.
 
No interest in this?
 
If you have an (almost) infinite source of energy - like antimatter - it probably doesn't matter (sorry) how efficient your engine is.
 
What makes it an infinite source of energy?
It is a finite amount of both matter and anti-matter (relatively limited amount) stored on the craft and used up for propulsion.
Both are converted to a plasma and then accelerated into the mixing chamber and nozzle.
I guess I don't understand how much power it would produse using such small amounts of each.
 
It's not infinite, but you can see infinity from there.

The space shuttle's main fuel tank hold around 750,000kg of fuel.
If that was antimatter it would generate 10^23 Joules of energy, equivalent to about 20,000,000,000,000 tons of jet fuel - not infinite but close enough.
 
Ok, so I am thinking something on the size of a scuba tank size. That way it would be a lot more acceleration without using much fuel. I figured it would have to be a space launch because I didn't even consider the possibility of being able to achieve orbit from the ground... It seems I am way off?
 
Use of this kind of engine on Earth anti matter can be stored only in magnetic field
flow control can be done by this magnetic field so no need of pump
the impulse of the product of process will be very less as it is only energy there is no material, so some working fluid also be subjected to that free energy and can be heated which produce impulse and propel the vehicle.

I also point out one mistake of the design that after reaction of the matter and antimatter is only energy so mixing chamber have no material hence nozzle can not be used.
but as we use another working fluid as propellant, energy is absorbed by it and the hot fluid passed through the nozzle to accelerate the propellant.
so nozzle is required but with combination of propellant, without it using nozzle don't mean. n for propulsion propellant must req.
 
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This is not the 'imagineering' forums, it's the engineering forums.
 
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hey Cyrus,
every new idea of invention starts with imagination so imagineering is the best engineering,

n by the way the idea of this kind of propulsive system is conceptually correct, the problem is just we don't have the proper source of antimatter.
 
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malay_555 said:
hey Cyrus,
every new idea of invention starts with imagination so imagineering is the best engineering,

n by the way the idea of this kind of propulsive system is conceptually correct, the problem is just we don't have the proper source of antimatter.

Please take the time to reply to my posts using proper English. That being said, this thread is nothing but speculation. And no, this is not 'the best' engineering (I am an engineer, this is junk science at best).
 
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I agree that this is too speculative for the PF. Thread is closed.
 

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