Is this diagram wrong? electric potential

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the correctness of a diagram related to electric potential and the calculation of work done by a force along a path. Participants are examining the mathematical treatment of forces and their components in the context of electric fields.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the diagram is incorrect, suggesting that the force used in the work calculation should be the component of the force in the direction of the path, specifically mentioning the need for the force multiplied by cos theta.
  • Another participant proposes a summation expression for work done, indicating that it should involve the integral of the force component in the direction of the path.
  • A third participant raises a question about the nature of the dot product in vector mathematics, noting that it includes the cosine of the angle between vectors, implying a distinction from algebraic multiplication.
  • A later reply acknowledges the clarification about the dot product.
  • Another participant humorously remarks on the discussion of the dot product as basic math within the forum context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct application of force components in the calculation of work, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the diagram and the mathematical treatment of the forces involved.

Contextual Notes

There are potential limitations in the assumptions made about the forces and their directions, as well as the mathematical steps involved in the calculations, which remain unresolved.

ElectricSenpai
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For the diagram below, is it wrong?
They have calculated the work done from i to f, using the force that is cross sectional to the particle.
Shouldn't the force in the direction of the path be the the force x cos theta.
They have summed the force that is not in the direction of the path?
 

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So the summation should be:i to f INT(Q0. E . Cos theta) ds
 
Back to basic math -

dot product of vectors is not same as dot in algebraic multiplication ?

doesn't dot product of vectors include cosine of angle between them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot_product
 
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Oh yeah thanks.
 
Haha -- dot product of vectors = basic math ... only in PF.
 

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