Is This Function a Gradient? Testing for Line Integrals

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a given vector function h(x,y) is a gradient field by testing line integrals over a specified curve. The function is defined in terms of its components and is evaluated along the arc described by a specific equation from point (-1,0) to (1,0).

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the criteria for a function to be a gradient field, specifically discussing the equality of mixed partial derivatives. There is also a consideration of how line integrals are computed in general versus specific cases.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on testing for gradient fields and suggested parametrization methods for the curve. There appears to be an ongoing exploration of different approaches to calculating the line integral, with no explicit consensus reached on the best method.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention challenges with parametrization and the implications of focusing on special cases versus general cases in line integral calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in determining the nature of the function h.

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Calculating line integrals...

Ok, the problem is:
h(x,y) = 3x (x^2 + y^4)^1/2 i + 6y^3 (x^2 + y^4)^1/2 j;
over the arc: y = -(1 - x^2)^1/2 from (-1,0) to (1,0).

In my notes, I had written: if h is a gradient, then the INTEGRAL of g*dr over curve C depends only on the endpoints. Also, if the curve C is closed AND h is a gradient, then the integral of g*dr over curve c is 0.

So, my question is, when testing to see if a given function like the one above, should you just test to see if:

partial derivative of the i component with respect to y EQUALS the partial derivative of the j component with respect to x?

If not equal, then it is not a gradient, right?
Thanks.
 
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SigmaCrisis said:
Ok, the problem is:
h(x,y) = 3x (x^2 + y^4)^1/2 i + 6y^3 (x^2 + y^4)^1/2 j;
over the arc: y = -(1 - x^2)^1/2 from (-1,0) to (1,0).
In my notes, I had written: if h is a gradient, then the INTEGRAL of g*dr over curve C depends only on the endpoints. Also, if the curve C is closed AND h is a gradient, then the integral of g*dr over curve c is 0.
True enough, but you have placed your focus on a SIMPLIFYING SPECIAL CASE, rather than on the general case (which is what you SHOULD focus on).
So, how are line integrals IN GENERAL computed?

EDIT:
As far as your question is concerned, yes that is how you could test for whether h is a gradient field.
 
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I couldn't parametrize the arc...and I thought that perhaps taking the integrals by considering only the endpoints would be easier. In this example, I parametrized the straight line connecting the endpoints, r(u) = (2u-1)i + (0)j. This however produces the wrong answer.

To answer the question on how to calculate the line integral:

[INTEGRAL on curve C] h*dr, where r is the parametrization of the curve. Right?
 
Try the parametrization:
[tex]x=\cos\theta, y=\sin\theta, \pi\leq\theta\leq2\pi[/tex]

I'm fairly sure it'll work out if you fiddle about with it for a while.
 

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