Is This the Correct Approach to Solving the Exact Differential Equation?

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The discussion revolves around solving the exact differential equation given by 2(y^2+1)dx+(4xy-3y^2)dy=0, focusing on the methods and reasoning behind the approach to find a solution.

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  • Participants discuss the identification of the equation as exact and explore different methods for solving it, including checking the solution by substitution and considering variable transformations. Questions arise regarding the clarity of the original poster's solution and the definitions of functions involved.

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The conversation is ongoing, with some participants offering alternative methods and questioning the original poster's steps. There is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the approaches discussed, and participants are actively seeking clarification on specific points.

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Some participants express confusion over the notation and terminology used in the original poster's attempt, highlighting potential misunderstandings in the problem setup. There is mention of the necessity to clarify the functions M and N in the context of the differential equation.

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Homework Statement


2(y^2+1)dx+(4xy-3y^2)dy=0

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here is my attempt to solve
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That's one way of solving it (observing that it is exact). I didn't check all steps though, so don't know if you are correct. You can fill in your solution in the differential equation and see if it works.

An alternative approach would be to divide both sides by ##x^2## and substitute ##z= y/x##
 
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Math_QED said:
That's one way of solving it (observing that it is exact). I didn't check all steps though, so don't know if you are correct. You can fill in your solution in the differential equation and see if it works.

An alternative approach would be to divide both sides by ##x^2## and substitute ##z= y/x##
im sorry but there is no z in the problem , i think you've mistaken 2 for z sorry about my penmanship :) lol
 
Baconslider said:
im sorry but there is no z in the problem , i think you've mistaken 2 for z sorry about my penmanship :) lol

No, you are misunderstanding me.

You can divide both sides by ##x^2## and you will get an expression in ##y/x##. You can consider ##y/x## as a new variable, which we will call ##z##. Thus, ##z = y/x## and ##xz = y##, so ##dy = dx z + xdz## and you can use this to transform your differential equation to one in ##z(x)##. Here, it is unnecessary as the DE is exact, but sometimes the method I just explained can be useful :)
 
Baconslider said:

Homework Statement


2(y^2+1)dx+(4xy-3y^2)dy=0

Homework Equations


The result you got is not correct. I can not follow what you did, but M and N are functions of both x and y. When you integrate M(x,y) with respect to x or N(x,y) with respect to y, you get two x,y functions. I do not understand, what you F(x) and F(y) are. Also, why is g'(x)=1, and if it so, why is g(x)=0? You should type in your solution. It would be easier to check what you wrote even for yourself.
 

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