Is this the correct way to find the Euler equation (strong form)?

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The discussion centers on deriving the Euler equation in its strong form from a functional defined as J(u) = ∫((u')² + e^u) dx. The participants detail the process of calculating the first variation of the functional and applying integration by parts, leading to the equation 2u' - 2u'' - e^u = 0. There are also exchanges regarding the correct use of LaTeX for mathematical expressions, emphasizing the importance of clarity in notation. The concept of "compact support" is mentioned, indicating its role in justifying the interchange of integration and differentiation. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the complexities of variational calculus while confirming the correctness of the derived Euler equation.
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Homework Statement
Find the Euler equation (strong form) for ## \int ((\mathrm{u}')^2+e^{\mathrm{u}}) \, dx ##.
Relevant Equations
Euler's equation: ## J(y)=\int_{a}^{b} F(x, y, y', y") \, dx ##
By the Euler's equation of the functional, we have
## J(\mathrm u)=\int ((\mathrm{u})^{2}+e^{\mathrm{u}}) \, dx ##.
Then ## J(\mathrm{u}+\epsilon\eta)=\int ((\mathrm{u}'+\epsilon\eta')^{2}+e^{\mathrm{u}+\epsilon\eta}) \, dx=\int ((\mathrm{u})'^{2}+2\epsilon\mathrm{u}'\eta'+\epsilon^{2}(\eta')^{2}+e^{\mathrm{u}}+\epsilon e^{\mathrm{u}}\eta) \, dx ##.
Note that ## \frac {J(\mathrm{u}+\epsilon\eta)-J(\mathrm{u})} {\epsilon}=\int (2\mathrm{u}'\eta'+\epsilon(\eta')^{2}+e^{\mathrm{u}}\eta) \, dx ##.
Consider the following limit:
## \lim_{\epsilon \rightarrow 0} \frac {J(\mathrm{u}+\epsilon\eta)-J(\mathrm{u})} {\epsilon}=\int (2\mathrm{u}'\eta'+e^{\mathrm{u}}\eta) \, dx=0 ##.
Applying the method of integration by parts, we obtain
## \int (2\mathrm{u}'\eta'+e^{\mathrm{u}}\eta) \, dx=(2\mathrm{u}'\eta)-\int (2\mathrm{u}''\eta+e^{\mathrm{u}}\eta) \, dx=0 ##.
Thus ## 2\mathrm{u}'\eta-2\mathrm{u}''\eta-e^{\mathrm{u}}\eta=0\implies 2\mathrm{u}'-2\mathrm{u}''-e^{\mathrm{u}}=0 ##.
Therefore, the Euler equation (strong form) is ## 2\mathrm{u}'-2\mathrm{u}''-e^{\mathrm{u}}=0 ##.
 
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Ouch, please review your Latex. For one, don't include standard English under tags.
 
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WWGD said:
Ouch, please review your Latex. for one, don't include standard English under tags.
Yes, I was working on it, but still doesn't seem to work. I will see what's wrong.
 
It's now fixed.
@Math100, for such complicated LaTeX, simpler is better.
For example, all the \mathrm items made it harder to find the two of them missing the leading slash.
Also, instead of \mathrm {u}, you could simplify this to \mathrm u. Braces -- { } -- can be eliminated from fractions, exponents, roots, and many other places if what's in the braces consists of a single character.
Instead of \lim_{x \rightarrow 0}, it's easier to use \lim_{x \to 0}.
 
Mark44 said:
It's now fixed.
@Math100, for such complicated LaTeX, simpler is better.
For example, all the \mathrm items made it harder to find the two of them missing the leading slash.
Also, instead of \mathrm {u}, you could simplify this to \mathrm u. Braces -- { } -- can be eliminated from fractions, exponents, roots, and many other places if what's in the braces consists of a single character.
Instead of \lim_{x \rightarrow 0}, it's easier to use \lim_{x \to 0}.
May you check/verify the work and solution to see if it's correct/accurate?
 
Let's see. We have ##J[ u ]=\int_a^b F(x,u,u') \,dx=\int_a^b \left((u')^2+e^u\right)\,dx## and want to calculate
\begin{align*}
\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} J(u+\varepsilon \eta)&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left( \left(u+\varepsilon \eta\right)'\right)^2+e^{u+\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx \\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left(u'+\varepsilon \eta'\right)^2+e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&\stackrel{\text{compact support}}{=}\int_a^b \left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0}\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\int_a^b\left( 2u' \eta' +e^u\eta \right)\,dx\\
&=2\left. u'\eta \right|_a^b -2\int_a^b \eta u'' \,dx +\int_a^b \eta e^u\,dx \\
&=\eta \left(2u'(b)-2u'(a)-2u'(b)+2u'(a)+ \int_a^b e^u\,dx \right)\\
&=\eta \int_a^b e^u\,dx
\end{align*}
That's what I get, but to be honest, variational calculus is not my strength. My solution is ##E(F)=e^u.## But I might have made a mistake.

Corrected. My mistake was that I took the factor ##e^u## for a sum.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Let's see. We have ##J[ u ]=\int_a^b F(x,u,u') \,dx=\int_a^b \left((u')^2+e^u\right)\,dx## and want to calculate
\begin{align*}
\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} J(u+\varepsilon \eta)&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left( \left(u+\varepsilon \eta\right)'\right)^2+e^{u+\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx \\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left(u'+\varepsilon \eta'\right)^2+e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&\stackrel{\text{compact support}}{=}\int_a^b \left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0}\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\int_a^b\left( 2u' \eta' +e^u\eta \right)\,dx\\
&=2\left. u'\eta \right|_a^b -2\int_a^b \eta u'' \,dx +\int_a^b \eta e^u\,dx \\
&=\eta \left(2u'(b)-2u'(a)-2u'(b)+2u'(a)+ \int_a^b e^u\,dx \right)\\
&=\eta \int_a^b e^u\,dx
\end{align*}
That's what I get, but to be honest, variational calculus is not my strength. My solution is ##E(F)=e^u.## But I might have made a mistake.
I will wait.
 
What does "compact support" mean/indicate in this problem?
 
Math100 said:
What does "compact support" mean/indicate in this problem?
IIRC then it allowed me to switch integral and differentiation. But you have the same problem. Maybe I should look up the correct theorem.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Let's see. We have ##J[ u ]=\int_a^b F(x,u,u') \,dx=\int_a^b \left((u')^2+e^u\right)\,dx## and want to calculate
\begin{align*}
\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} J(u+\varepsilon \eta)&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left( \left(u+\varepsilon \eta\right)'\right)^2+e^{u+\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx \\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left(u'+\varepsilon \eta'\right)^2+e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&\stackrel{\text{compact support}}{=}\int_a^b \left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0}\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\int_a^b\left( 2u' \eta' +e^u\eta \right)\,dx\\
&=2\left. u'\eta \right|_a^b -2\int_a^b \eta u'' \,dx +\int_a^b \eta e^u\,dx \\
&=\eta \left(2u'(b)-2u'(a)-2u'(b)+2u'(a)+ \int_a^b e^u\,dx \right)\\
&=\eta \int_a^b e^u\,dx
\end{align*}
That's what I get, but to be honest, variational calculus is not my strength. My solution is ##E(F)=e^u.## But I might have made a mistake.

Corrected. My mistake was that I took the factor ##e^u## for a sum.
How to differentiate ## (u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta} ##?

Never mind, I got it now. It's ## 2u' \eta' +2\varepsilon (\eta')^2+\eta e^{u+ \varepsilon \eta} ##. And at ## \varepsilon=0 ##, it's ## 2u' \eta' + \eta e^{u} ##.
 
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In order to exchange a limit, and differentiation is a limit, with an integral we need a majorized convergence. That means, if we replace ##\varepsilon ## by ##1/n## and consider a sequence of functions ##f_n## then we have the theorem:

If there is a function ##h(x)## such that ##|f_n(x)| < h(x)## and ##\int h(x) <\infty ## then
$$
\lim_{n \to \infty} \int f_n(x)\,dx = \int \lim_{n \to \infty}f_n(x) \,dx
$$

With a compact interval ##[a,b]## (in tech speech: "with a compact support" for cases where the integral isn't over an interval but over some region ##\Omega##) we have such an upper limit ##h(x)## whenever the functions are integrable, e.g. continuous.

I also used ##\int_a^b u'' \,dx = \left[u'(x)\right]_a^b =u'(b)-u'(a).##
 
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  • #12
But where does the solution ## E(F)=e^{u} ## come from?
 
  • #13
## \eta \int_a^b e^{u} dx= \eta (e^{u(b)}-e^{u(a)}) ##
 
  • #14
Math100 said:
But where does the solution ## E(F)=e^{u} ## come from?
Good question.

Let me have a look at the book (Olver, GTM 107, proposition 4.2 and theorem 4.4). We have without my sloppiness with ##\eta##
$$
\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} J(u+\varepsilon \eta)=\int_a^b \underbrace{e^{u(x)}}_{=E(F)=\delta J[ u(x) ]} \eta(x)\, dx
$$
and the theorems say that if ##f=u(x)## is an extremal of ##J[ f ]## then ##E(F)=\delta J[ u(x) ]=e^{u(x)}= 0## and that a solution has to be of the form ##E(F)=0.##

But this is never true on ##[a,b]## so there is probably no smooth extremal solution

I think my mistake is the integration step. Since ##\eta## depends on ##x## we cannot simply pretend as if it was a constant. So we actually have
\begin{align*}
\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} J(u+\varepsilon \eta)&= 2u'(x)\eta(x)|_a^b+\int_a^b \left(e^u -2 u''(x)\right)\cdot \eta(x)\,dx
\end{align*}
How do we bring the constant term ##2u'(x)\eta(x)|_a^b## into the form ##\int_a^b \delta(J[ v(x) ])\cdot\eta(x) \,dx##?
 
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I think your solution is correct, except that it should be ##+ e^u## not minus, and could be written a bit more along my way above.
 
  • #16
Math100 said:
But where does the solution ## E(F)=e^{u} ## come from?
Let's attack this without getting too hung up on mathematical rigor; i.e., we do it the way physicists do! :wink:

Start with the 1D action functional:$$J\left[u,u'\right]\equiv\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(\left(u'\right)^{2}+e^{u}\right)$$We want to find the function ##u(x)## which extremizes this action for fixed values of ##u(a),u(b)##. So we set the first variation of the functional to zero:$$0=\delta J\left[u,u'\right]=\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(2u'\delta\left(u'\right)+e^{u}\delta u\right)$$with the condition that ##\delta u(a)=\delta u(b)=0##. Thus,$$0=\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(2u'\left(\delta u\right)'+e^{u}\delta u\right)\qquad\text{ (𝛿 commutes with ´)}$$$$=\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(\left(2u'\delta u\right)'-2u''\delta u+e^{u}\delta u\right)=\left[2u'\delta u\right]_{a}^{b}+\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(-2u''\delta u+e^{u}\delta u\right)\qquad\text{ (integration by parts)}$$Because ##\delta u(x)## is zero at the integration limits, the term in brackets vanishes, leaving us with:$$0=\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(-2u''+e^{u}\right)\delta u$$And because ##\delta u(x)## is arbitrary for ##a<x<b##, this equation in turn requires that the coefficient in parentheses must itself be zero, leading to the Euler-Lagrange equation:$$0=-2u\left(x\right)''+e^{u\left(x\right)}$$
 
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renormalize said:
Because ##\delta u(x)## is zero at the integration limits, the term in brackets vanishes, leaving us with:$$0=\int_{a}^{b}dx\left(-2u''+e^{u}\right)\delta u$$
That was the part I am looking for, thanks.
 
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Let me summarize my calculations after all that confusion I have caused.

\begin{align*}
\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} J(u+\varepsilon \eta)&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left( \left(u+\varepsilon \eta\right)'\right)^2+e^{u+\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx \\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b \left(\left(u'+\varepsilon \eta'\right)^2+e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0} \int_a^b\left((u')^2+2u'\varepsilon \eta'+\varepsilon ^2(\eta')^2 + e^u\cdot e^{\varepsilon \eta}\right)\,dx\\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0}\left(\underbrace{\int_a^b (u')^2\,dx}_{\to 0} + \int_a^b(2u'\eta')\varepsilon \,dx+\int_a^b (\eta')^2\varepsilon^2 \,dx+\int_a^be^ue^{\eta \varepsilon }\,dx
\right)\\
&=\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0}\left( \varepsilon \cdot \underbrace{\left[2u'\eta\right]_a^b}_{=:C} -2\varepsilon \int_a^b \eta u''\,dx +\underbrace{\varepsilon^2 \int_a^b (\eta')^2\,dx}_{\to 0} +e^u \int_a^b e^{\eta \varepsilon }\,dx
\right)\\
&=C-2 \int_a^b u''\eta\,dx +\int_a^b e^u\underbrace{\left(\left. \dfrac{d}{d\varepsilon }\right|_{\varepsilon =0}e^{\varepsilon \eta}\,dx\right)}_{=\eta}\\
&=C+\int_a^b \underbrace{\left(-2u''(x)+e^{u(x)}\right)}_{=E(F)}\cdot \eta(x)\,dx
\end{align*}
 
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