Is This the End of the Gaza War?

[nazarbaz]

1. "The question of who began what is insoluble"
No, it is perfectly soluble. It began by the evil culture fostered by men like Haj-Amin al-Husseini, orchestrating massacres on peacefully, legitimately settled Jews back in the 1920s That evil policy of terror intensified during the 1930s and 1940s.

2. " We're talking about the oldest conflict on the planet where the two protagonists denied the other's right to exist as a nation."
Incorrect. Israel has NEVER denied the other part the right to exist as a nation. That is SOLELY the position of the Palestinians and fellow Arab governments.

1. That's why your buddies are retaliating since 48 ?
2. Say that to Benny, please...

 

[russ_watters]

The question of who began what is insoluble, Russ. I'm not going into this and I'm not talking about the recent outburst. But to say that the humantarian situation is mostly, more or less, to that extent or the other, the palestinians fault is simply not acceptable. We're talking about the oldest conflict on the planet where the two protagonists denied the other's right to exist as a nation. No one is good or evil, no one is responsible for it. The situation went wrong from the very beginning as everyone acted according it's own interests.
You can't ask palestinians to accept any peace process unleashed by the other part, it's not fair. And you can't blame them for resisting the logic of the most powerful.

Several issues here:

1. I'm not talking about who began what, nor the age of the conflict. That's pointless and rightly banned from this thread by the moderator of this forum. I'm talking about who is keeping it going. As such:
2. Currently, only one side denies the right of the other to exist.
3. Currently, only one side would accpet an immediate and unconditional end to hostility.
4. As a result, one side -- the side that is being harmed the most by the war -- can easily and immediately choose to end the fighting, immediately improving their lives. The other cannot.

 

[russ_watters]

2. Say that to Benny, please...

Please explain and provide a source.

 

[phinds]

What I heard stated once, and it seems to me to be an interesting take on the whole situation is this

Israelis work together and have turned a desert into a garden. The Palestinians fight among themselves and with others and have turned a desert into a wasteland.

This is a bit metaphorical, but seems accurate to me.

 

[nazarbaz]

Several issues here:

1. I'm not talking about who began what, nor the age of the conflict. That's pointless and rightly banned from this thread by the moderator of this forum. I'm talking about who is keeping it going. As such:
2. Currently, only one side denies the right of the other to exist.
3. Currently, only one side would accpet an immediate end to hostility.
4. As a result, one side -- the side that is being harmed the most by the war -- can easily and immediately choose to end the fighting, immediately improving their lives. The other cannot.

I'm sorry but it's not pointless. You can't have any grasp on what is happening if you ignore the historical framework.
Are you serious about these claims ? Palestinians have to accept whatever the israelis want to offer ? You call this a fair peace process ? Palestinians tried the peaceful way and it failed... It's not reasonable to consider them guilty of the oppression they live...

 

[Evo]

And this is why this topic is banned.