Is this the right way to go about proving this?

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The discussion revolves around proving a limit in the context of multivariable calculus, specifically using the definition of limits for functions of two variables. The original poster attempts to show that the limit of the function f(x,y) = x - 2y as (x,y) approaches (3,-1) equals 5.

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  • Participants discuss the validity of the original proof approach, particularly the use of the distance metric in the limit definition. Questions arise about the correctness of the original poster's setup and the implications of using different definitions of distance in R2.

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Several participants provide feedback on the original proof, questioning specific steps and suggesting alternative interpretations of the limit definition. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these definitions, but no consensus has been reached regarding the correctness of the proof.

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Participants note the importance of adhering to standard definitions in calculus and express uncertainty about the implications of using alternative definitions. The original poster also indicates a lack of prior experience with similar proofs, which may influence the discussion dynamics.

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I'm supposed to use the definition of limit to show that [tex]\lim_{\substack{x\rightarrow 3\\y\rightarrow -1}} f(x,y) = 5[/tex]

where [tex]f(x,y) = x - 2y[/tex]

I split the function into two: [tex]H(x,y) = x[/tex] and [tex]G(x,y) = -2y[/tex]
It can be shown that H + G = f and that the addition of their limits equals the limit of f

So I let [tex]\epsilon > 0[/tex] and set [tex]\delta = \epsilon/2[/tex], so that whenever [tex]\sqrt{(x-3)^2+(y+1)^2} < \delta[/tex] then [tex]|H(x,y) - 3|= |x - 3| < \epsilon/2[/tex] and [tex]|G(x,y) - 2|= |-2y - 2|= 2 |y + 1| < \epsilon/2[/tex]
[tex]|H(x,y) + G(x,y) - (3 + 2)| = |H(x,y) -3 + G(x,y) -2| = |(x-3) + 2(y+1)| <= |x-3| + |2 (y+1)| < 2 \sqrt{(x-3)^2+(y+1)^2} = 2 \delta = \epsilon[/tex]

So, what all is wrong?
 
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i think that your mistake is when you write [tex]\sqrt{[(x-3)^2+(y+1)^2]}<\delta[/tex]
i think it should be [tex]|x-3|<\delta_1[/tex]
and [tex]|y+1|<\delta_2[/tex]
 
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Why is that?
If my proof is wrong, can anybody explain how to make it right, please. I've never had to prove anything calc related before =/
 
Well, that depends on exactly what your definition of limit (in R2) is!

The standard definition uses [itex]\sqrt{(x_1-x_0)^2+ (y_1-y_0)^2}[/itex] to measure the distance between points so [itex]\sqrt{(x-3)^2+ (y+1)^2}< \delta[/itex] would be correct. It is possible to define "distance between points" by max([itex]|x_1-x_0|, |y_1-y_0|[/itex]) so that loop quantum gravity's suggestion is possible but that is not the standard definition.
 
Thanks for the replies. =)

So is my proof correct?
And if I used his way, would I have to Set [tex]\delta = min(\delta_1, \delta_2) = \epsilon/2[/tex]?
 
SOrry, I don't want to seem pushy, but I just want to know two things:
1) Am I correct?
2) Why or why not?
 
Oh crap, I forgot to write [tex]\delta = \epsilon/2[/tex]
 

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