Isotropic rank 3 pseudotensor help

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The discussion revolves around the properties and representations of isotropic rank 3 pseudotensors, particularly in relation to their formulation using the Levi-Civita symbol. The original poster seeks clarification on how to express an isotropic rank 3 pseudotensor in terms of the Levi-Civita tensor, drawing parallels to the rank 2 tensor case.

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  • Participants discuss the definitions of pseudotensors and their behavior under transformations, particularly questioning the use of indices and the implications of different definitions. There is an exploration of how to demonstrate that certain pseudotensors are proportional to the Levi-Civita tensor.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants seeking to clarify definitions and approaches to the problem. Some have suggested tackling specific aspects of the problem, such as the invariance of elements under orthonormal transformations, while others express uncertainty about the original poster's notation and assumptions.

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There is mention of different definitions of pseudotensors, which may affect the interpretation of the problem. Additionally, the discussion hints at the complexity of proving the properties of rank 3 pseudotensors compared to rank 2 tensors.

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Can anybody show me how any isotropic rank 3 pseudotensor can be written as

a_{ijk}=\lambda \epsilon_{ijk}

for the isotropic rank 2 tensor case [i.e. a_{ij}=\lamda \delta_{ij} ], my notes prove it by considering an example i.e. a rotation by \frac{\pi}{2} radians about the z axis.
 
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anyone?
 


No help yet? It's not clear to me how you're using indices. Are you writing vectors with lower indices?

Secondly, are you defining pseudotensors as tensors that change sign under a reflection of the coordinates such as (x,y,z)-->(-x,y,z)? There are two definitions of a pseudotensor.

Edit: Actually, it should be obvious from your question that you are using the first definition.

So the claim is that the only pseudotensors, whos elements remain unchanged under a general rotation, are equal to the totally antisymmetric tensor multiplied by some scaling factor.
 
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yes.
i guess then i meant that such a pseudotensor is proprotional to the levi civita rank 3 pseudotensor.

how does one actually show that though?
 


They're not giving you much to go on, are they?

The easy problem (1) is to show that the elements of \lambda \epsilon_{ijk} are unchanged under othonormal transformations. The hard part is (2) showing that the elements of all rank 3 pseudotensors that remain unchanged are of the form \lambda \epsilon_{ijk}.

The only difference between tensors and pseudovectors in this proof is that you have to eventually account for an optional reflection of coordinates.

I would tackle the first problem first:


Tensors transform as the product of vectors.

An orthornormal transformation in three dimensions can be obtained as the product of the transformations that rotate vectors about the X, Y and Z axis.
 
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