It looks like Tsu will be flying in a MIG

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The discussion revolves around the excitement and concerns regarding a planned flight in a MIG aircraft, specifically focusing on the safety, experience, and types of MIGs involved. Participants share personal anecdotes, express enthusiasm, and speculate on the model of the MIG, while also discussing the implications of flying such aircraft.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the opportunity to fly in a MIG, with one noting the importance of the pilot's experience and safety.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of older aircraft, with references to past incidents involving high-stress maneuvers.
  • There is speculation about the specific model of the MIG, with mentions of the MIG-15, MIG-21, and MIG-29, and discussions about their capabilities.
  • Participants share personal experiences with air combat and flying, emphasizing the thrill and intensity of such activities.
  • Some participants suggest that the MIG could potentially go supersonic, while others challenge this claim based on known specifications.
  • There are humorous suggestions about what to do during the flight, including pulling G's and performing stunts.
  • One participant mentions the MiG-25 and its impressive performance, contrasting it with other aircraft like the Avro Arrow, leading to a debate about their respective capabilities.

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Participants generally share excitement about the flight, but there are multiple competing views regarding the safety of flying in older aircraft and the specific model of the MIG. The discussion remains unresolved on certain technical claims and safety concerns.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the specific capabilities of the MIG models mentioned, including their speed and performance characteristics. Additionally, assumptions about the pilot's experience and the safety of the flight are not fully clarified.

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Individuals interested in aviation, particularly military aircraft, thrill-seekers considering flight experiences, and those curious about the technical aspects of flying older aircraft may find this discussion relevant.

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Me too, but she gets to go first. [just to be sure it's safe :biggrin:]

Details to be provided as soon as we know how it checks out.

..and now I'm supposed to sleep?
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Me too, but she gets to go first. [just to be sure it's safe :biggrin:]

Details to be provided as soon as we know how it checks out.

..and now I'm supposed to sleep?

WHAT, if this is true Seeking i am just so jealous.
 
It is true. And I know, what an incredible opportunity!

I just hope the guy is someone with whom one would wish fly in a MIG. but as I sit here and think about it, he has a MIG and he's alive. That says quite a bit right there.

Maybe Tsu can fulfill two dreams at once and parachute from the MIG. :biggrin:
 
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Word of caution.

I heard that there is a place in georgia where you can pay to fly in a T-34mentor and do simulated combat in the air. Well, one of the T-34's had a wing failure because they were putting the airplanes under high loads continuously.

Although, MIGs are very good airplanes. Plus you have ejection seats :wink:. What kinda mig, 17?

Very cool :cool:

Edit: Here's the article http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/1999/990603t34.html
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
It is true. And I know, what an incredible opportunity!

I just hope the guy is someone with whom one would wish fly in a MIG.

Well i would kill to have a go in a jet, i hope you and Tsu enjoy every second
as i am sure you will, just make it clear to the pilot that you want the full monty:!)
 
Do not listen to Cyrus, he is just a kill joy:biggrin:
 
Actually, I did Air Combat in a Marcuzzi light attack aircraft. Tsu gave it to me as a surprise Christmas present. If you are a thrill seeker, do Air Combat no matter what it takes. I didn't stop smiling for weeks - literally! It was so intense that I was physically incapable of driving home afterwards.
http://www.aircombatusa.com/

I don't know which mig he owns yet.
 
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No actually, I'm just saying. Don't go up in the air if the guy is some rich yahoo who likes to pull 12G stunts for fun on a regular basis. Old airplanes don't like to be mistreated.

One time I went up with a guy in a cessna (probably from the 70's) and we were doing some hard turns on it. In hindsight, that was a stupid thing to do.
 
wolram said:
Well i would kill to have a go in a jet, i hope you and Tsu enjoy every second
as i am sure you will, just make it clear to the pilot that you want the full monty:!)

You bet! You don't want to walk away from this one without losing your lunch; at least twice!
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
You bet! You don't want to walk away from this one without losing your lunch; at least twice![/QUOTE
Ivan as you are just so lucky will you please take pictures for us lesser mortals to drool over.
 
  • #11
There is something fun about pulling your lips out of your ears when you done! Hope she enjoys the flight!
 
  • #12
Ooohhhh... you have got to post videos!
 
  • #13
Man.. You are going to BARF everywhere :)

Tell him to pull some G's and do some loopdaloops.. better yet give me the Pilots phn number and Ill give him/her a call and let him/her know how much u like puking :)
 
  • #14
Get on the mic and say, "were too close for missles, I am switching to guns!"

Then proceed to fire at pengwuinos house. I'll give you the lat and long so you can punch it into the INS computer. :devil:
 
  • #15
I'd be interested in what MiG you'll be in.

I did an ACM day in AT-6's. It was fun.
 
  • #16
I'm so EXCITED!11111111111

:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
 
  • #17
I am turning green over here...:approve:
 
  • #18
I am told that it's a Mig 15
 
  • #19
MiG-15UTI-205-01.jpg


She's from the korean war. Treat her with care!
 
  • #20
Allegedly this guy can go supersonic but that doesn't agree with the listed speed of 650 mph. Were any of the 15s supersonic? I am wondering if this is the right plane. The person who said that it's a 15 has never actually gone up, so maybe he's wrong about the model.
 
  • #21
Supersonic :smile: no way. That thing would go subsonic at ~550mph and would be pushing it on such an old airplane.

If that's the airplane, then make sure you get a demonstration of this

wiki said:
Rate of climb: 50 m/s (9,840 ft/min)

That is like going to shoot you up 10k feet in a little over 1 min, that's amazing :biggrin:
 
  • #22
The one guy who went up said that it is supersonic, so maybe its not a 15. The person who said that it's a 15 has never gone up. Of course I forgot the ask the person who would know.
 
  • #23
If your really lucky its a 29


Soviet_MiG-29_DF-ST-99-04977.JPG


Man, what a sweet machine.
 
  • #24
wow look at this:

http://www.webfreebees.net/images/BuriedMig1.jpg

Sadam buried some airplanes in the sand so we wouldn't find them!


Get your shovel, we have a mission. Finder keepers, right?
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
wow look at this:

http://www.webfreebees.net/images/BuriedMig1.jpg

Sadam buried some airplanes in the sand so we wouldn't find them!


Get your shovel, we have a mission. Finder keepers, right?

Im coming i have my sun hat and bucket and shovel.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
If your really lucky its a 29


Soviet_MiG-29_DF-ST-99-04977.JPG


Man, what a sweet machine.

Oh, PLEASE God, let it be a 29!11 :biggrin:
 
  • #27
It might be a mig-21

http://www.yumodel.co.yu/yugoslav_air_force/mig21/v_mig21j.jpg

I am tending to go with it being either a 15,17 or 21. (21 pictured above)

A 29 is too modern and too expensive.
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
It might be a mig-21

http://www.yumodel.co.yu/yugoslav_air_force/mig21/v_mig21j.jpg

I am tending to go with it being either a 15,17 or 21. (21 pictured above)

A 29 is too modern and too expensive.

They do let civies fly them in Russia, but it costs mega bucks, the 29 that is.
 
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  • #29
Oh hell... as long as we're speculating, let's hold out for a Foxbat. :-p
 
  • #30
You read my mind danger,

http://www.flymig.com/packages/MiG-25.flight.htm

Standard flight on MiG-25:

powerful climbing to up-to 80,000 feet
Breaking the sound barrier and flight at speed of Mach 2.5-3
roll
immelman
loop
split-S
climbing
diving
powerful diving
turns both by flight instructor as well as the customer
Your flight instructor will be a test-pilot of the Airforce of Russian Federation

Zhukovsky Airbase is the only place in the whole World where you can fly MiG-25 for hire. There is no other jet available for anybody to fly like MiG-25 that can climb to 80,000 feet in two minutes and stay there. It has reached highest absolute altitude of 123,524 feet (37.65 km) claiming the World record that still stands.
All I can say is

Flight time, 30 min, cost $19,500.00.

mig25_2.jpg


This is the same type airplane they dug out of the sand in iraq posted earlier.
 
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