It looks like Tsu will be flying in a MIG

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The discussion revolves around the excitement and concerns regarding a planned flight in a MIG aircraft, specifically focusing on the safety, experience, and types of MIGs involved. Participants share personal anecdotes, express enthusiasm, and speculate on the model of the MIG, while also discussing the implications of flying such aircraft.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the opportunity to fly in a MIG, with one noting the importance of the pilot's experience and safety.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of older aircraft, with references to past incidents involving high-stress maneuvers.
  • There is speculation about the specific model of the MIG, with mentions of the MIG-15, MIG-21, and MIG-29, and discussions about their capabilities.
  • Participants share personal experiences with air combat and flying, emphasizing the thrill and intensity of such activities.
  • Some participants suggest that the MIG could potentially go supersonic, while others challenge this claim based on known specifications.
  • There are humorous suggestions about what to do during the flight, including pulling G's and performing stunts.
  • One participant mentions the MiG-25 and its impressive performance, contrasting it with other aircraft like the Avro Arrow, leading to a debate about their respective capabilities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share excitement about the flight, but there are multiple competing views regarding the safety of flying in older aircraft and the specific model of the MIG. The discussion remains unresolved on certain technical claims and safety concerns.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the specific capabilities of the MIG models mentioned, including their speed and performance characteristics. Additionally, assumptions about the pilot's experience and the safety of the flight are not fully clarified.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in aviation, particularly military aircraft, thrill-seekers considering flight experiences, and those curious about the technical aspects of flying older aircraft may find this discussion relevant.

  • #61
scorpa said:
I am counting the days until I can make that happen! For me it would either be a Street Bob, Wide Glide or Springer Softail.
Any of those would be acceptable. I chose the Softail because it has clean lines (similar to a hard-tail) and a Wide-Glide front end.
 
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  • #62
My most thrilling sport was white-water kayaking. I had a low-volume squirt boat and in heavy white-water, the darned thing would be submerged due to the low density of the foamy water. There are some really nice rivers up here that are often running at Class IV and V. It's a blast. After a while, my friends kind of lost interest in leaning to run heavier waters in kayaks, switched to canoes, etc, so I sold the boat and spent my weekends on the bike. The most difficult thing to learn was the Eskimo roll. If you're going to run heavy water, you need to learn to roll from either side, and from either the upstream or downstream side. That's important if you should flip in a rocky rapid and you're upside-down in heavy turbulence with boulders coming at your head. A few seconds of that will give you a thrill.
 
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  • #63
I tried jet sking for a couple of years, boy does water hurt, good for leg muscles though.
 
  • #64
I get queasy just reading this thread. I think a ride on the Teacups would be about all the excitement I could stand.
 
  • #65
Math Is Hard said:
I get queasy just reading this thread. I think a ride on the Teacups would be about all the excitement I could stand.
You and me both, but I guess there is a reason why Tsu is the pilot for the Supersonic RV. I think we'll be in for some wild rides after this :wink:
 
  • #66
I :!) soft tails.:smile:
 
  • #67
wolram said:
I :!) soft tails.:smile:
Cue Arildno... :rolleyes: [/size]
 
  • #68
  • #69
Come on, find out what kind of airplane ur going up in already! :rolleyes:
 
  • #70
I won't know until next week... but thinking of Moscow...
 
  • #71
Oh man, don't even think about spending that kinda cash in Russia. That's a rip off. Its a 30min flight. Give me a break! If you want to go to Russia that bad, bring home a wife, there a lot cheaper.
 
  • #72
"This isn't like 'Top Gun' school," Mr. Orsos said, explaining that amateurs cannot take the pressure of gravitational forces in a dogfight. "When you are going head to head in a jet fighter, the novice will be blacked out in three seconds."

Pat Moran, the president of an oil exploration company in Houston, did not pass out when he went through the training in Slovakia last June, but he did have a few stomach problems. "I got airsick after the third loop," said Mr. Moran, one of the few Americans to have gone through the MIG training. But airsickness was only a minor bother to Mr. Moran, who said he spent $16,000 for the experience of flying a MIG-29, and would gladly do it again.

"The adrenaline is pumping out your ears," Mr. Moran said. "It was one of the great experiences of my life. The adrenaline keeps burning, but I slept well that night." [continued]
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=travel&res=990CE1DD123DF933A25756C0A963958260
 
  • #73
cyrusabdollahi said:
Oh man, don't even think about spending that kinda cash in Russia. That's a rip off. Its a 30min flight. Give me a break! If you want to go to Russia that bad, bring home a wife, there a lot cheaper.

Cyrus you seem to forget that Ivan is mega rich. blackut 11,000 is like a weeks work for him. :smile:
 
  • #74
At a total of say 20,000, that amounts to $11 a day for five years. I saved nearly as long for my first motorcycle. :biggrin:

I wonder what will happen when Tsu sees this...
 
  • #75
wolram said:
Cyrus you seem to forget that Ivan is mega rich. blackut 11,000 is like a weeks work for him. :smile:

We're not rich. :biggrin: You are only considering the good weeks. There are plenty more bad ones than weeks like that.

We are talking about a handful of experiences over one's entire life.
 
  • #76
You know you can get a ride in a P-51 mustang for $600 bucks.
 
  • #77
Many people could ride a Mig 29 if they gave up Starbucks for five years.
 
  • #78
cyrusabdollahi said:
You know you can get a ride in a P-51 mustang for $600 bucks.

You can rent a VW at Ugly Duckling Car Rentals. :rolleyes:
 
  • #79
Just kidding :biggrin:
 
  • #80
Hey hey hey, let's show the P-51 the proper respect that it deserves. It has one of the lowest coefficients of drag, even compared to modern airplanes.

cough cough, commie sellout, cough cough...
 
  • #81
Truthfully, I would get a charge out of flying a P-38.
 
  • #82
http://www.rdavp.com/Reports/Langley%202004/Langley%20Heritage%20Flight%202004.jpg

:cool:


Russians and their made in Russia junk...:smile:
 
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  • #83
Have you seen the SU30 thrust vectoring? Right near the end of the first segment he'll stand it straight up on it's tail and fly backwards and...backwards. .
http://www.flightlevel350.com/Aircraft_Sukhoi_Su-30-Airline_Untitled_Aviation_Video-2738.html
 
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  • #84
Have you seen the new F-22? It has thrust vectoring. It might not fly backwards, but it will shoot down the Su-30 before he ever catches sight of the Raptor visually or on radar. It is stealthier than the F-117 Night hawks used in Gulf War 1.
 
  • #85
You realize of course that this is probably the last generation of piloted fighter aircraft... or nearly so. There is one unpiloted craft that pulls 13 g's or so. They may have even said 20 g's.
 
  • #86
btw, this isn't about Russian vs US fighters, this is about what one has access to. I would be equally or more thrilled to ride in an F series fighter jet.
 
  • #87
Ivan Seeking said:
You realize of course that this is probably the last generation of piloted fighter aircraft... or nearly so. There is one unpiloted craft that pulls 13 g's or so. They may have even said 20 g's.

Maybe. With stealth aircraft, who needs to pull 13g's anymore?

UAV's still have a long way to go in terms of reliablity.
 
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  • #88
Well I see that Tsu is online... gulp...
 
  • #89
cyrusabdollahi said:
Maybe. With stealth aircraft, who needs to pull 13g's anymore?

It is already known how to defeat stealth.
 
  • #90
What do you mean?
 

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