Jacobian Determinant/ mult. variable implicit differentiation

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The discussion focuses on calculating the derivative dz/dx using the Jacobian determinant for the equations F: x² + y² - z² + 2xy - 1 = 0 and G: x³ + y³ - 5y - 4 = 0. The user seeks assistance in setting up the Jacobian determinant rather than performing polynomial differentiation. The correct formulation involves understanding the relationships among the variables and applying the chain rule to isolate dz/dx through the appropriate Jacobians.

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Homework Statement


Let F: x^2 + y^2 - z^2 + 2xy - 1 = 0 and G: x^3 + y^3 - 5y - 4 = 0. Calculate dz/dx. Note: This is NOT the partial derivative ∂z/∂x.

I do not need help in taking the derivative of many polynomials. What I need help in is setting up a Jacobian determinant to evaluate this.


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The Jacobian determinant, bit tough to explain in a short period of space. Exceptionally helpful with many equations with as many variables as equations, in which the partial derivative can be evaluated by the Jacobian Determinant.



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Okay, so dz/dx = [∂(F, G) /∂(z, y)] / ∂(F, G) / ∂(x, y) * (-1), but this is incorrect as this is ∂z/∂y. Essentially I need to know, what is a function of what, and how can I evaluate this? I do not care necessarily for the answer, simply for the setup.
 
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The ultimate independent variable is x. G relates x and y so y is only function of x:y=y(x).
F is a relation among x, y, z. z depends both on y and x: z=z(x,y(x)). ehild
 
Here is the motivation
F(x,y,z)=0
G(x,y,z)=0
0=dF=Fx dx+Fy dy+Fz dz
0=dG=Gx dx+Gy dy+Gz dz
first we find
0=(Gy dF - Fy dG)/dx
which will have the Jacobians you seek
then think it through in general

What happens is you get F,G,x,y in one Jacobian and F,G,y,z in the other and F,G,y effectively cancel (chain rule) leaving dz/dx
 
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