Journal bearing reaction loads calculation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating reaction loads in journal bearings, specifically in the context of a problem presented from the Shigley Handbook for Machine Design. Participants explore the methods for determining reaction forces at specified points on a shaft, considering steady-state conditions and neglecting x-direction loads.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about calculating reaction forces at points A and B and seeks procedures for determining shaft loads at those points.
  • Another participant suggests taking moments about point A to find the reaction at point B, indicating a method for analysis.
  • A follow-up question asks how to determine the shaft load at points A and B.
  • It is proposed that the reaction forces at A and B balance the weight of the shaft and disks, implying the use of the equation ∑Fy=0 to find these forces.
  • One participant confirms that once the reaction force at one point is known, the reaction at the other can be found using the same equilibrium equation.
  • Another participant shares a related experience with worn journal bearings and discusses the importance of oil film strength in preventing failures, although this is somewhat tangential to the original problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of equilibrium equations to find reaction forces, but there remains some uncertainty about the specific calculations and the implications of shaft loads at points A and B. Additionally, the discussion includes a separate perspective on related issues with journal bearings, indicating multiple views on the broader topic.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding the loading conditions and the specific definitions of the forces involved. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps necessary for calculating the reaction forces.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in journal bearing design, mechanical engineering principles related to load calculations, and those facing similar issues with bearing performance may find this discussion relevant.

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Dear everybody here,

Here is a problem to solve, from shigley handbook for Machine design, it's about Journal bearing design for the shown shaft in the attachment, i know how to design the journal bearing, but i am a little bit confused about how to get the reaction forces at the two points A and B, and the shaft load at those points to consider into the bearing design

The loads at x-direction are neglected, and steady state working conditions, getting the reactions can be by getting ∑Fy=0 ?, if so, what about the shaft loads at those points?

Please take a look at the attached picture, it has the whole given data, i only need the procedures to get the loads right

will appreciate your help,
Thanks
 

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Would you not just take moments about A to get the reaction at B, and/or vise-versa?
 
yes, and what about the shaft load at the points A and B?, how to get?
 
it will be equal to the reaction force i get?, at A and B?
 
The reaction forces at A and B balance the weight of the shaft and the weight of the disks. ∑Fy=0.

If the reaction force at A ( or B ) is found, then by using ∑Fy=0, the reaction at the other location is found.
 
Okay bits, thanks for your help
 
Hi
I'm here to follow this topic,engaging same problem,worn journal bearings on cam seats.
 
mehranx said:
I'm here to follow this topic,engaging same problem,worn journal bearings on cam seats.

I had a similar problem with rocker arms and shafts failing every 15 000 miles. It turned out to be the film strength of the engine oil I was using was inadequate. Here in the USA the high film strength stuff has a logo on it that says "For Gasoline Engines." I know, it's an oxymoron. The particular standard was promulgated by Ford Motor Co. maybe 20 years ago and they trademarked the phrase. Then they got it accepted by the API (American Petroleum Institute) as a standard. Honda Motor Co. specifies their own oil for motorcycles with appearently similar requirements.
 

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