Load on a journal bearing in a vertical shaft

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design considerations for a journal bearing in a vertical motor shaft, focusing on the types of loads acting on the bearing, potential failure modes, and lubrication methods. The context includes both theoretical and practical aspects of bearing design in vertical applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the loads acting on journal bearings in a vertical motor shaft, emphasizing that they are not considering thrust bearings.
  • Another participant suggests the necessity of conducting a vibrational analysis to avoid operating at critical speeds, noting that no shaft is perfectly round and that tolerances must be accounted for in calculations.
  • A third participant mentions that the shaft is for a submersible motor and indicates that hydrodynamic lubrication is used for the journal bearings.
  • Another contribution highlights potential rotor unbalance loads and lateral loading due to the motor's operation, mentioning that there may be unbalanced magnetic forces acting on the rotor, especially during startup and shutdown.
  • There is uncertainty expressed regarding the lateral bearing capabilities of standard motors for vertical operation compared to horizontal operation, with a suggestion that economic factors may influence design choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the loads and considerations for journal bearings in vertical shafts, with no consensus reached on specific load types or failure modes. There are competing ideas regarding the effects of rotor unbalance and the necessity of vibrational analysis.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of detailed assumptions regarding load magnitudes, the dependence on specific motor designs, and the unresolved nature of the lateral loading effects in vertical applications.

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i have to design a journal bearing for a vertical motor shaft. what loads act on these bearings? since the shaft is axial, are they any loads that act on the bearing. here i am talking about journal/plain bearing, not the thrust bearing which supports the vertical load. what type of failure we have to consider for the case?
 
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Even if upright you would still have to do a vibrational analysis. I think it is called critical speed or something like that and make sure you are not operating at that speed for the shaft - best to be either above or below that speed. Reason being is that no shaft can be made perfectly round, or in another sense no shaft will have its axial centre of mass coincide with its geometric centre. Use the extreme tolerances of the shaft to do a calculation. And compare to that with what the journal bearing can tolerate.

Have you thought of how you would lubricate the upright journal?
 
the shaft is for a submersible motor, there is hydrodynamic lubrication for the journal bearings
 
There will be some level of rotor unbalance loads and probably some level of lateral loading resulting from whatever the motor is driving. I'm not certain of this, but I seem to recall motor designers commenting there is usually some level of unbalanced or non-symmetrical magnetic forces acting on a real motor's rotor. Non of these would normally be large, as in the weight of the rotor. During start up and shut down there may also be transient lateral loadings.

I'm not sure of this, but I think standard motors for vertical operation have pretty much the same lateral bearing capability as do standard horizontal operation motors. Of course that is probably due to economic reasons and not knowing what lateral loads may result from its application.
 

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