Jumping in a Moving Box: Effects of Acceleration and Vacuum Conditions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of jumping inside a moving box under different conditions, specifically when the box is in a vacuum and when it is accelerating. Participants explore the implications of Newton's laws in these scenarios, considering both uniform motion and acceleration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether they will land in the same spot or hit the back of the box when jumping in a vacuum while the box is moving at a constant speed.
  • Another participant suggests that Newton's laws imply landing in the same spot if the box is not accelerating, but expresses uncertainty about the effect of the vacuum on their speed.
  • Some participants argue that the vacuum should not affect landing position if the box is not accelerating, while others believe that acceleration will cause them to land further back.
  • There is confusion regarding the role of air in maintaining speed during the jump, with participants questioning whether air is necessary for maintaining the same speed as the box.
  • A modified scenario is introduced where a participant jumps from the top of the box, prompting further discussion about landing in uniform motion without air resistance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effects of jumping in a vacuum versus an accelerating box, with no consensus reached on the outcomes of these scenarios.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the implications of air resistance and its role in the jump dynamics, nor have they clarified the assumptions regarding the vacuum conditions and their effects on motion.

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What if I am enclosed in a big box which initially has some air. It starts moving at a uniform speed of xKmph. Now suddenly , suppose the box becomes a vacuum. and I jump at the same instant. WHat happens? Will I land at the same place wrt to the box or will I smash the back?

Now what about the same QN when the box is accelerating at 1 mps?

BOX can be a moving train but which is closed completely, so that vacuum can be attained.
 
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Good question. What do you think will happen? Why or why not?
 
Well, I am a bit confused. Newtons Law says that I will land at the same place as I am also moving with the box. And for the second question I will be landing a good distance back.

But I am not sure about this as I am also getting a feeling that I won't be moving at the same speed of the box as there is no air to carry me at that speed. Please enlighten if you could.
 
The box becoming a vacuum should not have any effect. If the box isn't accelerating you will land at the same spot.

But yes if the box is accelerated you won't land at the same spot.
 
tattushenoi said:
But I am not sure about this as I am also getting a feeling that I won't be moving at the same speed of the box as there is no air to carry me at that speed. Please enlighten if you could.

Is it the air that carries you at a speed?
 
What happened to me was divorce, but I suspect that your are using different terminology than I do...
 
AlchemistK said:
Is it the air that carries you at a speed?

I was not sure. But I was more inclined towards my first answer. So I thought why not get things clear. I hope you have it right.

Thanks.
 
Now let me slightly modify the Question.

Suppose I am at the top of the box and not inside it and the height stretches to the atmospheric boundary.Now what happens if I jump considering the box is in uniform motion.
 
If we assume that there is no wind or any air resistance of any type, you will still land on the box.
 
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Thought so. Thank You again.
 
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Sorry for the flippancy, Tattoo. I'm merely trying to justify this damned badge that they gave me. Sometimes that requires being uncouth. :redface:
 

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