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The discussion revolves around justifying steps in an algebraic argument using Spivak's properties of addition. Participants explore whether the transition from "x + 3 = 5" to "x + 3 + 0 = 5" can be justified through the listed properties or if it relies on an assumed axiom about equality. The concept of addition as a function is introduced to clarify that if two quantities are equal, they can be substituted in expressions. The importance of the transitive property of equality is also highlighted as necessary for justifying the steps taken. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the foundational aspects of algebraic reasoning and the need for rigorous justification in mathematical proofs.
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Based on the properties provided, why does x + 3 = 5 lead to (x + 3) + (-3) = 5 + (-3)?
I am 100% reading too much into this, but I am curious which of the properties provided by Spivak allow one to justify a specific argument. For reference/context, the properties are:

P1: If a, b, and c are any numbers, then
$$a +(b + c) = (a + b) +c$$

P2: If a is any number, then
$$a + 0 = 0 + a = a$$

P3: For every number a, there is a number -a such that
$$a + (-a) = (-a) + a = 0$$

Specifically, I am curious about the following:

$$ x + 3 = 5 $$

$$ x + 3 + (-3) = 5 + (-3) $$

From this point, I understand the argument as the following:

By Property P3,

$$ x + 0 = 2 $$

By Property P2 ,then

$$ x = 2 $$

Is the step in question justifiable from any of the listed properties? Or, rather, is this basic property of addition intended to be assumed? Most properties are introduced from first principles, so I don't know if this should be any different. However, directly before the proof Spivak says "It is then possible to find the solution of certain simple equations by a series of steps (each justified by P1, P2, or P3) ...".

Here is the best that I can come up with:

$$x + 3 = 5$$

By P2,

$$x + 3 + 0 = 5 $$

By P3,

$$x + 3 + (-3 + 3) = 5 $$

By P1,

$$x + (3 + (-3)) + 3 = 5$$

Then, (by basic algebra?)

$$x + (3 + (-3)) = 5 + (-3)$$

By P3,

$$x + 0 = 2$$

By P2,

$$x = 2$$
 
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If I understand your question you are trying to prove:

##a=b \implies a+c = b+c##

Is this correct?

It can be justified using something very elementary (more elementary than the properties you listed) that you probably read over:

Addition is a function ##+: \mathbb{R} \times \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}##.

This means, for every ##(x,y) \in \mathbb{R}\times \mathbb{R}##, there is a unique number ##x+y\in \mathbb{R}##.

So, if ##a=b##, then ##(a,c)=(b,c)## and thus by uniqueness it follows that ##a+c=b+c##.

Ps: Spivak didn't formally introduce the function notion at this point, so don't worry about this too much. But it is a very good question and shows that you don't take things for granted!
 
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Von Neumann said:
Here is the best that I can come up with:

$$x + 3 = 5$$

By P2,

$$x + 3 + 0 = 5 $$

That seems to assume "A quantity may be substituted for it's equal in any algebraic expression". I seem to remember that phrase given as an axiom in a secondary school textbook. But to get to ##x+3+0 = 5## correctly, you'd have to use the transitive property of ##=##.

##(x+3)+0 = (x+3)## by P2
##(x+3) = 5 ## given as the initial step
##(x+3)+0 = 5 ## transitive property of ##=##
 
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Math_QED said:
If I understand your question you are trying to prove:

##a=b \implies a+c = b+c##

Is this correct?

It can be justified using something very elementary (more elementary than the properties you listed) that you probably read over:

Addition is a function ##+: \mathbb{R} \times \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}##.

This means, for every ##(x,y) \in \mathbb{R}\times \mathbb{R}##, there is a unique number ##x+y\in \mathbb{R}##.

So, if ##a=b##, then ##(a,c)=(b,c)## and thus by uniqueness it follows that ##a+c=b+c##.

Ps: Spivak didn't formally introduce the function notion at this point, so don't worry about this too much. But it is a very good question and shows that you don't take things for granted!

This is exactly my question! I think I need to get better at formulating exactly what I have a problem understanding. Your response makes sense. I was worried about overthinking this aspect.
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
That seems to assume "A quantity may be substituted for it's equal in any algebraic expression". I seem to remember that phrase given as an axiom in a secondary school textbook. But to get to ##x+3+0 = 5## correctly, you'd have to use the transitive property of ##=##.

##(x+3)+0 = (x+3)## by P2
##(x+3) = 5 ## given as the initial step
##(x+3)+0 = 5 ## transitive property of ##=##

Yes! Those seem to be the steps I was performing implicitly in going directly from

$$x + 3 = 5$$

to

$$ x + 3 + 0 = 5$$

I think the prologue of the text will make a lot more sense with this information. Thanks for responding!
 

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