Kaon decay to a lepton and associated neutrino

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The discussion revolves around the decay of a kaon, specifically the process K^+ → l^+ν_l, and the associated Feynman diagram representation. The subject area includes particle physics and weak interactions, particularly focusing on quark flavor changes and the role of the CKM matrix.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the possibility of a kaon decaying directly into a lepton and neutrino without additional particles, questioning the implications of such a decay. There are discussions about the involvement of virtual particles and the necessity of a charm quark in the decay process. Some participants clarify the role of the CKM matrix in quark transitions and the emission of W bosons.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the interactions involved in the decay process. There is a recognition of the complexity of quark flavor changes and the relationships defined by the CKM matrix, but no consensus has been reached regarding the exact nature of the decay or the necessity of additional particles.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific decay products mentioned and the implications of virtual particles in the decay process. There is also mention of confusion regarding flavor state changes and their relation to W boson emissions.

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Homework Statement



Draw the lowest-order Feynman diagram for the decay: K^+ \rightarrow l^+\nu_l

Homework Equations



Kaon structure is given as u\bar{s}



The Attempt at a Solution



So I know that you can get a lepton and an associated neutrino from a W decay, where the strange quark would flip over to a charm quark in the kaon. The question doesn't say there's a pion produced, though, only the lepton and neutrino. Is there an actual decay here that vaporizes the kaon completely into a lepton and neutrino without leaving the up quark just sitting around?

I drew a diagram (dunno how to represent in TeX) that shows a USbar going to a UCbar where the Sbar decays into a W+ which decays into a lepton and neutrino. Am I missing something? Does the UCbar go away or is it just ignored?
 
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If such a decay exists, then something needs to happen to the quarks to produce virtual particles other than the lepton and neutrino, and those virtual particles need to be used up in the process of making the end state products so that they too don't appear at the end (since they're virtual, after all). So try finding a more complicated internal set of interactions that accomplishes this.
 
The CKM matrix directly couples all up type quarks to all down type quarks (in particular u and s). There's no need to involve a charm quark.
 
fzero said:
The CKM matrix directly couples all up type quarks to all down type quarks (in particular u and s). There's no need to involve a charm quark.

I see. I was getting confused with a table I have as a reminder that: when you change particular flavor states (like from C to S or U to D) you emit a W+ and a W- for the reverse operation. I thought in order to go from like a U -> D, D -> C, C -> S you had to emit a W+ each time.

So the CKM matrix takes care of that?
 
Ai52487963 said:
I see. I was getting confused with a table I have as a reminder that: when you change particular flavor states (like from C to S or U to D) you emit a W+ and a W- for the reverse operation. I thought in order to go from like a U -> D, D -> C, C -> S you had to emit a W+ each time.

So the CKM matrix takes care of that?

By couple I mean there is a W involved. But there are direct couplings u\leftrightarrow d, u\leftrightarrow s, u\leftrightarrow b, as well as the analogous couplings for the other up type quarks.

This is usually explained in terms of the weak eigenstates not being diagonal in the mass eigenstates. Let u,c,t,d,s,b be the mass eigenstates. Then the weak eigenstates are u,c,t,d',s',b'. In terms of the CKM matrix V_{ij}, we can write

d' = V_{ud} d + V_{us} s + V_{ub}b.

The couplings to the W bosons are of the schematic form

\bar{u} W d' = V_{ud} \bar{u} W d + V_{us}\bar{u} W s + V_{ub}\bar{u} W b.

In particular, there will be a coupling between u and \bar{s} that depends on V_{su}^*.
 

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