KE of electron being attracted by 2 protons

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving the kinetic energy of an electron being attracted to two stationary protons. The setup includes the protons positioned vertically apart, with the electron's path intersecting the midpoint of the line connecting the protons.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of potential energy at various positions of the electron and how it relates to its kinetic energy. There is a focus on the initial distance of the electron from the protons and its implications for energy conservation.

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Some participants have provided guidance regarding the potential energy at the electron's initial position and suggested using conservation of energy to find the maximum kinetic energy. Multiple interpretations of the potential energy calculations are being explored.

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There is mention of a discrepancy in the expected answer related to the denominator in the potential energy formula, indicating a possible misunderstanding of the setup or calculations involved.

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Hi everyone,

I have a problem regarding this question. An electron is and it is being attracted to 2 stationary protons. The 2 protons are at a vertical distance of 6x apart and the electron passes through the centre of the line joining the 2 protons (3x below the top proton and 3x above the bottom proton), and at right angle to that line. The electron is released at a distance of 4x from the vertical mid-point of the 2 protons. What is the max KE of the electron?

I found the potential at the mid point of the 2 protons which the electron will pass through to be at e/6(pi)(Enot)x, and eV is the KE so it gives e^2/6(pi)(Enot)x. The answer is wrong and the one I've been given is a 15 at the denominator and not 6. Can anyone point out my mistake? thanks!
 
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al_201314 said:
Hi everyone,

I have a problem regarding this question. An electron is and it is being attracted to 2 stationary protons. The 2 protons are at a vertical distance of 6x apart and the electron passes through the centre of the line joining the 2 protons (3x below the top proton and 3x above the bottom proton), and at right angle to that line. The electron is released at a distance of 4x from the vertical mid-point of the 2 protons. What is the max KE of the electron?

I found the potential at the mid point of the 2 protons which the electron will pass through to be at e/6(pi)(Enot)x, and eV is the KE so it gives e^2/6(pi)(Enot)x. The answer is wrong and the one I've been given is a 15 at the denominator and not 6. Can anyone point out my mistake? thanks!

It's because you forgot to take into account the fact that the electron has some potential energy at the initial position!
At the initial position, it is at a disatnce of 5x from both proton. Find the potential energy there. Then use conservation of energy and you will see that you will get ther answer (hint: 1/6 -1/10 = 1/15).

Patrick
 
al_201314 said:
Hi everyone,

I have a problem regarding this question. An electron is and it is being attracted to 2 stationary protons. The 2 protons are at a vertical distance of 6x apart and the electron passes through the centre of the line joining the 2 protons (3x below the top proton and 3x above the bottom proton), and at right angle to that line. The electron is released at a distance of 4x from the vertical mid-point of the 2 protons. What is the max KE of the electron?

I found the potential at the mid point of the 2 protons which the electron will pass through to be at e/6(pi)(Enot)x, and eV is the KE so it gives e^2/6(pi)(Enot)x. The answer is wrong and the one I've been given is a 15 at the denominator and not 6. Can anyone point out my mistake? thanks!

It's because you forgot to take into account the fact that the electron has some potential energy at the initial position!
At the initial position, it is at a disatnce of 5x from both proton. Find the potential energy there. Then use conservation of energy and you will see that you will get ther answer (hint: 1/6 -1/10 = 1/15).

Patrick
 
Thanks Pat for the help I can't imagine I didn't thought of that and to think that my final exams are in november! Thanks agaiN!
 
al_201314 said:
Thanks Pat for the help I can't imagine I didn't thought of that and to think that my final exams are in november! Thanks agaiN!
You are very welcome!
 

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