News Keep fear alive - Rally to Restore Sanity

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The discussion centers on the upcoming "March to Keep Fear Alive" rally, emphasizing the importance of fear in American culture as a motivator for freedom and liberty. Participants are encouraged to join the rally in Washington, DC, on October 30, which aims to counteract the influence of reason and promote a sense of urgency about political issues. While some view the event as a lighthearted gathering, others speculate about its potential to evolve into a grassroots movement against the tea party. The conversation also touches on the role of comedy in politics, with figures like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart being recognized for their impact on public discourse. Ultimately, the rally is seen as a platform for those who feel marginalized in the current political climate.
  • #51
G037H3 said:
  • If you only know one language (or haven't reached a high level of mastery in your native language) and are not at least studying another, you are uncultured.
  • If you have never studied any great literature on your own, you are uncultured.
  • If you don't know about the history of your people, you are uncultured.
  • If you can't distinguish great art from recent art, you are uncultured.
  • If you are a post-modernist or moral relativist, you are uncultured.

Ohh I have a few of my own:

  • If you don't eat cheese, you are uncultured.
  • If you don't eat yogurt, you are uncultured.
  • If you don't eat sour cream, you are uncultured.
  • If you don't drink kefir, you are uncultured.
  • If you don't drink kumis, you are uncultured.
  • If you don't believe in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five-second_rule" , you are uncultured.
  • If you've never drank water in Mexico, you are uncultured.
 
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  • #52
Just a note... Starting a "what does it mean to be cultured" thread in Philosophy. I'm interested in the various perspectives that may emerge, and this thread is getting far off topic. https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2912064#post2912064

cronxeh: :smile: You've forced to come face to face (szemtol szembe lattom!) with just how much fermented dairy I eat. Oh, and for Mexico... I thought I was soooo clever... I didn't even brush my teeth with tap-water. THEN, I drank some watermelon juice in a restaurant... which had been made with tap-water in addition to watermelon. I prayed for death.
 
  • #53
nismaratwork said:
and this thread is getting far off topic.

Yes, far enough. Please direct all discussion of culture to nismar's thread.
 
  • #54
nismaratwork said:
A magyar egyedülálló nyelv, egy egyedi kultúra. E barbár (G037H3) nem értette kultúra ha külső ő fartő... Nerozumí smyslu kultury... Dydy 'n anhyblyg a blentyn.

:biggrin:

G037H3: I know plenty of people who are multilingual, but would be generally considered uncultured. Megérteni? Shvatiti? Verstehen Sie? Zrozumieć? :rolleyes: Lattom gőgös ember...

edit/P.S. OmCheeto: Do you ever run into the problem where you start to blend languages? For the longest time I kept using the Latin word for "cook/chef" whenever I spoke Spanish, or I'll slip into Japanese when I'm trying to speak anything... especially the word, "but". I have no idea why!

Why of course. I remember the first few weeks of Russian class at university, half of the class was already fluent in German, so we were always mixing up our "da's" with our "ya's". It was much fun. :smile: And for the life of me, I can no longer keep Serbian words out of my Russian conversations, and vice versa.

But I agree with you that multilingualism has little to do with being cultured. Most of the time it is a result of necessity or environment. I mean really, of what use is learning a foreign language if you don't need to? It's like learning COBOL and never writing a program.

Kapeesh?
 
  • #55
OmCheeto said:
Why of course. I remember the first few weeks of Russian class at university, half of the class was already fluent in German, so we were always mixing up our "da's" with our "ya's". It was much fun. :smile: And for the life of me, I can no longer keep Serbian words out of my Russian conversations, and vice versa.

But I agree with you that multilingualism has little to do with being cultured. Most of the time it is a result of necessity or environment. I mean really, of what use is learning a foreign language if you don't need to? It's like learning COBOL and never writing a program.

Kapeesh?

Értem! I'm glad it's not just a defect in my noodle. :biggrin:

Ivan: Thanks Ivan.

So, the rally... if anyone from PF ends up there, maybe a thread with pics, or even live updates wouldn't be bad? I can't make it, but politics aside it sounds like it's going to be an absolute blast!
 
  • #56
nismaratwork said:
If you don't agree with G037H3's remarkably narrow views... you're uncultured. I'm serious... are you actually an incredibly sophisticated fancier of satire, and this is all part of your method, or are you really thinking that anyone buys this line of... reasoning?

You may be egalitarian if you really insist upon it. I, myself, am an aristocrat.
 
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  • #58
G037H3 said:
You may be egalitarian if you really insist upon it. I, myself, am an aristocrat.



:smile: :smile: :smile:
 
  • #59
G037H3 said:
You may be egalitarian if you really insist upon it. I, myself, am an aristocrat.

An aristocrat without a people or a palace... how very... post-modern of you. :smile:
 
  • #60
Tsu said:
:smile: :smile: :smile:

You know not what you laugh at, so how can you derive pleasure out of my post? You must be laughing at what you *think* I must be like, which is far from the truth.
 
  • #61
nismaratwork said:
An aristocrat without a people or a palace... how very... post-modern of you. :smile:

I have a people, and the Earth is my palace.
 
  • #62
G037H3 said:
I have a people, and the Earth is my palace.

Do you people recognize your lofty position, and do you rule your palace?
 
  • #63
G037H3 said:
I have a people, and the Earth is my palace.

Colbert?

Is that you?

A pox on you, thine elephants, and your extra-worldly treadmill...

NO FEAR!
 
  • #64
WOW! CNN fired Rick Sanchez for making innapropriate remarks about Stewart.

Rick Sanchez Fired – Rick Sanchez CNN Twitter Account Not Updated – Rich Sanchez has been fired from CNN after he made a number of inappropriate comments during a recent radio show appearance. He was appearing on his radio talk show that is called “Rick’s List.” While on the program he called “The Daily Show’s” Jon Stewart a “bigot” and took shots at a number of other political analysts and news anchors...
http://tech.spreadit.org/rick-sanchez-fired-rick-sanchez-cnn-twitter-account-not-updated/

I've never like Sanchez and his fluff, but this really surprised me. He was getting three hours a day on CNN and had just taken the prime spot for the evening news.
 
  • #65
He might not have been fired for slamming Stewart (though that may be the cover). Some of his comments were along the lines of Jews controlling the media, and that may have stepped on some bigger toes than the Stewart "bigot" comments.
 
  • #66
Astronuc said:
I'm not sure what one-sided rallies achieve.

It is all about momentum. That's why it is a grand tradition in the US political process.

More town hall meetings with substantive discussions would be preferable.

We tried that last summer to help inform the public about the options for health care reform, and the right kept shouting down the efforts with cat calls of "Socialist!", "You want to pull the plug on grandma!", and "Where was Obama really born?".

Clearly Stewart showed O'Reilly much more respect than he was shown. So, again, Stewart is the one reaching out.
 
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  • #68
turbo-1 said:
He might not have been fired for slamming Stewart (though that may be the cover). Some of his comments were along the lines of Jews controlling the media, and that may have stepped on some bigger toes than the Stewart "bigot" comments.

Apparently he has been reprimanded before.

No loss. He was the poster boy for CNN's downhill slide. Hopefully he'll be replaced with a real journalist.
 
  • #69
Ivan Seeking said:
Apparently he has been reprimanded before.

No loss. He was the poster boy for CNN's downhill slide.

He truly put the "twit" in Twitter. Not only was he a poster boy for the downhill slide of CNN, but the incredible desperation that must be at play for a fool like him to get 3 hours a day. Of course, now they Eliot Spitzer on, but at least he's just a perv, and not an idiot.
 
  • #70
nismaratwork said:
He truly put the "twit" in Twitter. Not only was he a poster boy for the downhill slide of CNN, but the incredible desperation that must be at play for a fool like him to get 3 hours a day. Of course, now they Eliot Spitzer on, but at least he's just a perv, and not an idiot.

:smile:
 
  • #71
Ivan Seeking said:
CNN fired Rick Sanchez...
Long overdue.
 
  • #72
Ivan Seeking said:
WOW! CNN fired Rick Sanchez for making innapropriate remarks about Stewart.

Oh come on, we all know that PF is run by Jews :rolleyes: :smile:
 
  • #73
Gokul43201 said:
Long overdue.

What was it about it him that people seemed to enjoy enough for him to get so much airtime? I always felt he obscured the news more than anything else, but obviously he got ratings.

Lisab: :-p What can I say, I'm not a Twitter fan, and he seemed like a social networking huckster and not an anchor or reporter.
 
  • #74
nismaratwork said:
What was it about it him that people seemed to enjoy enough for him to get so much airtime? I always felt he obscured the news more than anything else, but obviously he got ratings.

Lisab: :-p What can I say, I'm not a Twitter fan, and he seemed like a social networking huckster and not an anchor or reporter.

It seemed evident to me that CNN was drifting towards the Fox Noise format. With any luck, this will change the momentum at CNN.

Kyra Phillips is another one at CNN I'd like to see axed. She is a journalist with a personal agenda. She doesn't know how to separate her personal opinions from her reporting.
 
  • #75
Was looking around for some juicy "RTRS" stuff and ran across the http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20016808-503544.html":

Jon was on Crossfire(CNN) back in 2004 with a gentleman who moved to Fox right after the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE&feature=player_embedded".

wiki said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker_Carlson"
Stewart criticized the format of shows like Crossfire, calling Carlson and co-host Paul Begala "partisan hacks," and asked them to "stop hurting America."

Carlson countered by criticizing Stewart's July 2004 interview with then U.S. Presidential candidate John Kerry. He accused Stewart of "sniffing Kerry's throne" and "not asking tough questions." Stewart replied, contextualizing his own show as a comedic rather than informational venue, "I didn't realize that [...] the news organizations look to Comedy Central for their cues on integrity." After Carlson told Stewart "I think you're more fun on your show," Stewart replied by saying: "You know what's interesting though? You're as big a dick* on your show as you are on any show."

After watching the interview, I was in total agreement.

Interesting that the "partisan hack" Carlson has created a a political journalism website, "The Daily Caller", which has acquired the domain name: http://www.keitholbermann.com/" ", only they devote the entire page to criticizing Keith. (I wouldn't waste my time with it as I just did. They make fun of Keith making fun of idiots, jerks, and the insane. Which is, as far as I can tell, why I like Keith.)

*dick, as in "Tricky Dick" Nixon, I'm sure. :rolleyes:
 
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  • #76
Ivan Seeking said:
It seemed evident to me that CNN was drifting towards the Fox Noise format. With any luck, this will change the momentum at CNN.

Kyra Phillips is another one at CNN I'd like to see axed. She is a journalist with a personal agenda. She doesn't know how to separate her personal opinions from her reporting.

I agree oh all points, but... Kyra is pretty. :blushing:

Anyway, CNN is almost "news free" these days, with "heroes" and showpieces being center-stage. They need to get serious again, or it's going to be Fox, and MSNBC and that's IT.
 
  • #77
OmCheeto said:
Was looking around for some juicy "RTRS" stuff and ran across the http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20016808-503544.html":

Jon was on Crossfire(CNN) back in 2004 with a gentleman who moved to Fox right after the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE&feature=player_embedded".
After watching the interview, I was in total agreement.

Interesting that the "partisan hack" Carlson has created a a political journalism website, "The Daily Caller", which has acquired the domain name: http:nn.com/"", only they devote the entire page to criticizing Keith. (I wouldn't waste my time with it as I just did. They make fun of Keith making fun of idiots, jerks, and the insane. Which is, as far as I can tell, why I like Keith.)

*dick, as in "Tricky Dick" Nixon, I'm sure. :rolleyes:


Heh, Tucker isn't just a hack, he's a ridiculous man-child who looks like he should be at the business end of a ventriloquists arm. Jon Stewart as a comedian is a better interviewer than Tucker Carlson will ever be. I never thought I'd say it, but I miss the old-guard conservatives who could at least carry on a conversation... now we have these leftovers and new-era idiots.
 
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  • #78
nismaratwork said:
I agree oh all points, but... Kyra is pretty. :blushing:

Anyway, CNN is almost "news free" these days, with "heroes" and showpieces being center-stage. They need to get serious again, or it's going to be Fox, and MSNBC and that's IT.

There is still the land of milk and honey - PBS.

Phillips ticked me off a quite few times. I've seen her blatently misquote the person she's interviewing to serve her own highly transparent agenda.

I still like Blitzer, King, and a couple of others on CNN, but that's it. As always, David Gergen is the best. I was thilled to see them hire Gergen.
 
  • #79
nismaratwork said:
I agree oh all points, but... Kyra is pretty. :blushing:

Anyway, CNN is almost "news free" these days, with "heroes" and showpieces being center-stage. They need to get serious again, or it's going to be Fox, and MSNBC and that's IT.

is Buchannan still on MSNBC in the mornings? he's freaking brilliant at times and pretty much a straight shooter.

somebody else that is a straight talker on political commentary is Dick Morris. that guy really needs his own show.
 
  • #80
Gergen and Morris... but no, we get "Parker and Spitzer"... "cry"
 
  • #81
Yay, it's the noon report, it's CNN, and there's no Rick Sanchez!
 
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  • #83
lisab said:
Yay, there's going to be a Rally to Restore Sanity in Seattle, the same day as the one in Washington!

http://www.sanityseattle.com/

In Washington? Seattle Washington?

hmmm...

I said a while back that I'd never drive back to Seattle. Bumpity bump from hell through Tacoma, and then the 5 hour parking lot drive back through to Olympia... On a Sunday afternoon no less.

hmmm...

I'd do a momentary lapse of sanity, for the sake of sanity.

ROAD TRIP!

:smile:
 
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  • #84
I live near Seattle...I'll be sure to avoid the random mob. X_X
 
  • #85
Ariana Huffington will be busing people to the rally... Interesting...
 
  • #86
nismaratwork said:
Ariana Huffington will be busing people to the rally... Interesting...

Yes, and as I said, Oprah is involved as well, which could mean that a foothill or two of her mountain of money is involved.
 
  • #87
This is streaming live on Comedy Central and C-SPAN. Who's watching it? I'm stuck here at work today.
 
  • #88
I'm watching it.
 
  • #89
Evo said:
I'm watching it.
Very good coverage!
 
  • #90
turbo-1 said:
Very good coverage!

I'm enjoying it too :smile:.
 
  • #91
I want one of Colbert's "runs with scissors" medals!
 
  • #92
Pretty good entertainment, too. I've never been a Kid Rock fan, but his number with Cheryl Crow was pretty good. "the least I can do is care"
 
  • #93
Her current number is reminiscent of Sly and the Family Stone.
 
  • #94
I hope they don't burn the field to the ground. :biggrin: :rolleyes:
 
  • #95
Stewart's closing remarks were great. Now watch the media pan it.
 
  • #96
lisab said:
I'm enjoying it too :smile:.

:frown:

shows over.

was looking for breaking news commentary regarding the rally and found the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u7NB25xBwA

and knitting, and knitting... huh HA HA HA HAWWWWW!
I love Pee-Wee.

Anyways, I think it captured the essence of rally, in one minute, thirty eight seconds.

And just in case anyone missed the finale, here's a close approximation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXvKRZRofDE

until they release the DVD boxed set.
 
  • #97
turbo-1 said:
Stewart's closing remarks were great. Now watch the media pan it.

Jon's closing remarks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXmbzLI3pnk

And of course, some of the http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/10/jon-stewart-rally.html" wasn't bad.

I was caught off guard by the former Black Sabbath member & current spokesperson for the Mountain of Light being photographed together:

6a00d8341c630a53ef0134889687de970c-600wi.jpg


Though reading the lyrics to Mr. Ozbourne's incomprehensible singing, made me realize that the song may have been very apropos to the event:

http://www.google.com/url?url=http:...g=AFQjCNHFm8sJbJs0SOstZ4BFJLq6z8WwBQ&cad=rjt"
...

Heirs of a cold war
That's what we've become
Inheriting troubles
I'm mentally numb
Crazy, I just can not bare
I'm living with something that just isn't fair

Mental wounds not healing
Who and what's to blame
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
 
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  • #98
I saw it in bits and pieces on the news. I did see the closing speech live and it was very impressive.

I was so busy this morning that I didn't realize that it would be shown live on Comedy Central starting at 9:00 AM my time. I hope they re run it.
 
  • #99
edward said:
I saw it in bits and pieces on the news. I did see the closing speech live and it was very impressive.

I was so busy this morning that I didn't realize that it would be shown live on Comedy Central starting at 9:00 AM my time. I hope they re run it.
I didn't see all of it, either, but would like to. I missed Ozzie, for instance. Not my favorite musician, but I'm glad he chipped in.
 
  • #100
The closing speech by Jon Stewart was fantastic. My favourite quote:

Most Americans don’t live their lives solely as Democrats or Republicans. Most Americans live their lives just a little bit late for something they have to do.

And although that line is quotable, the whole of what he had to say was inspiring.

It's an event I would have loved to attend. The mass of people on the Mall was truly impressive. Has anyone seen hard number yet?
 

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