Keplerian Telescope and real image

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The discussion centers on modifying a Keplerian Telescope to produce real images instead of inverted virtual images. Participants suggest adding a third lens to focus light properly, which is essential for capturing images on sensors like CCDs. The conversation also touches on the use of ABCD matrices for calculating angular magnification, indicating that with only two lenses, the system behaves more like a microscope. The need for an achromatic lens for high-quality imaging is also highlighted.

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Homework Statement
Imagine that you will build a Keplerian telescope and record the images that
it produces on a CCD chip. The CCD chip records the light intensity at each
pixel and thus can be used to produce an image, if the chip is at the location
of a real image. Draw how you will modify the basic Keplerian telescope to
accomplish this. Also, given that the magnification of a telescope is defined as
how much bigger it makes an object look to a given imaging system, does the
magnification change given your modification?
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I know that the Keplerian Telescope produces an inverted virtual image. What modification should I make to generate real images? Will switching the first lens with the second lens change the telescope into a microscope? Thank you!
 
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Can you post a link or two to information about Keperian telescopes and maybe use "Attach files" to upload a typical image of one? Then can you say more about why anything needs to get modified? Thanks.
 
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Beams are not focused after the second lens. The telescope forms a virtual image. But I need form a real image after telescope to record image on chips.
 
Okay, good, thanks. So what do you need to add in order to form a real image? Hint -- what does the eye add to form an image on its retina?
 
You mean adding a third lens, so the light focuses on the focal point of the third lens, then forms a real image?
 
That seems like a possibility to me. To form a high quality image, you would want the lens system that you add to be achromatic, but maybe in the context of a simple schoolwork problem, they just want you to insert a simple lens to form the real image.

What equations should you use to calculate the power of that new lens?
 
I tried to achieve the task with only 2 lenses. I moved the second lens to the left of the right focal point of the first lens. I can indeed obtain a real image. However, after using ABCD matrix to calculate the angular magnification of the system, I found M<1, which means it is a microscope not a telescope..... Is there a way to achieve a telescope with only two lenses? It is part 1d. Thank you!
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Isn't there already a real image in the drawing you posted of the Keplerian telescope? Can't you just put the CCD there?
 

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