KFC double down now has competition

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The discussion revolves around the emergence of a new high-calorie sandwich competing with the KFC Double Down, focusing on the cultural implications of oversized food portions in the U.S. Participants express various opinions on the health impacts, culinary creativity, and societal reflections of such food trends.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the extreme calorie count of the new sandwich, questioning its necessity and health implications.
  • Others comment on the trend of oversized food portions in America, suggesting it caters to unhealthy eating habits.
  • A few participants express disgust at the idea of consuming such large sandwiches, with some stating they would lose their appetite just by seeing it.
  • There are humorous suggestions about the absurdity of the sandwich's construction, with one participant proposing an even larger version.
  • Some participants discuss the caloric needs of active individuals, referencing athletes like Michael Phelps to argue about the appropriateness of such high-calorie meals.
  • There are remarks about the cultural significance of food choices, with some suggesting that they reflect broader societal values or issues.
  • Several participants share personal anecdotes about their experiences with similar food establishments, expressing mixed feelings about the quality and appeal of the food.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of oversized food portions, health concerns, and cultural reflections. Some express agreement on the unappealing nature of such foods, while others defend the choices made by consumers.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying assumptions about caloric needs and definitions of "active" lifestyles, leading to differing opinions on the appropriateness of high-calorie foods. There is also a lack of empirical evidence to support claims about cultural reflections based on food choices.

  • #31
Evo said:
The only thing not coated in sugar was the chicken.
Don't bet on it.
 
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  • #32
Ingredients for KFC Grilled Chicken:
fastfoodingredients.com said:
Fresh Chicken Marinated with: Salt, Sodium Phosphate, and Monosodium Glutamate Seasoned with: Maltodextrin, Salt, Bleached Wheat Flour, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oil, Monosodium Glutamate, Spices, Palm Oil, Natural Flavor, Garlic Powder, Soy Sauce (Soybean, Wheat, Salt), Chicken Fat, Chicken Broth, Autolyzed Yeast, Beef Powder, Rendered Beef Fat, Extractives of Turmeric, Dehydrated Carrot, Onion Powder, and Not More Than 2% Each of Calcium Silicate and Silicon Dioxide Added as Anticaking Agents. Contains Wheat and Soy.
http://www.fastfoodingredients.com/category/kfc/"

wiki said:
Maltodextrin is a short chained starch sugar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrin"
OK, not coated with it, but it's early in the list of ingredients.
 
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  • #33
Jimmy Snyder said:
Ingredients for KFC Grilled Chicken:

http://www.fastfoodingredients.com/category/kfc/"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrin"
OK, not coated with it, but it's early in the list of ingredients.
There was some nasty glaze on the skin which I threw away first, then realized it might have been the only edible part of the chicken.

And I *love* their fried chicken, the extra cripsy has enough grease to send my gall bladder into seizures, but worth it once a year.
 
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  • #34
xxChrisxx said:
I actually find that pretty funny, it's in no way a 'sandwich' as it's not feasibly possible to eat it as such. It's simply food items stacked on top of each other.

Precisely! They call it "layering" and is a big component in the psychology of fast food. Things are just getting more ridiculous! I think it's time to empty the pool, fill it with soil and start growing my own food :)
 
  • #35
Evo said:
There was some nasty glaze on the skin which I threw away first, then realized it might have been the only edible part of the chicken.

:smile:
 
  • #36
Evo said:
There was some nasty glaze on the skin which I threw away first, then realized it might have been the only edible part of the chicken.

And I *love* their fried chicken, the extra cripsy has enough grease to send my gall bladder into seizures, but worth it once a year.

Your KFC must get their chicken from a good source. Our local one has the worst quality chicken you can imagine. In fact it was a particularly gross KFC meal that pushed my daughter to try being vegan for a while.

Typically, chicken I've seen from there has a strange wet texture, lots of fat, and broken bones (disturbing). I don't buy there anymore.
 
  • #37
lisab said:
Your KFC must get their chicken from a good source. Our local one has the worst quality chicken you can imagine. In fact it was a particularly gross KFC meal that pushed my daughter to try being vegan for a while.

Typically, chicken I've seen from there has a strange wet texture, lots of fat, and broken bones (disturbing). I don't buy there anymore.

I think KFC used to be better than it is now. Every once in a while (maybe once a year), I crave a piece of extra crispy chicken, but when I get it, it never seems crispy at all, just really greasy. Though, I had one of those cravings recently, and instead of getting the leg and thigh that I usually get (the white meat is always too dried out for my taste, in spite of all the grease it soaks in), I tried the extra crispy chicken strips. Those were pretty good. Not as greasy.
 
  • #38
I'm hungry.
 
  • #39
Thanks, Jimmy.

jimmy said:
Fresh Chicken Marinated with: Salt, Sodium Phosphate, and Monosodium Glutamate Seasoned with: Maltodextrin, Salt, Bleached Wheat Flour, Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and Cottonseed Oil, Monosodium Glutamate, Spices, Palm Oil, Natural Flavor, Garlic Powder, Soy Sauce (Soybean, Wheat, Salt), Chicken Fat, Chicken Broth, Autolyzed Yeast, Beef Powder, Rendered Beef Fat, Extractives of Turmeric, Dehydrated Carrot, Onion Powder, and Not More Than 2% Each of Calcium Silicate and Silicon Dioxide Added as Anticaking Agents. Contains Wheat and Soy.

Monosodium glutamate, natural flavor, and autolyzed yeast are all ways to get free glutamates into you. They are not bound, so that your body could metabolize them slowly or let them pass through, like from natural sources like beets, mushrooms, etc. They hit me like a line-backer. A couple of bites of that would land me in the ER in anaphylactic shock. Maltodextrin and "beef powder" are probably both additional sources. When you boil proteins (plant or animal) in acid and then neutralize them in lye to extract glutamates, that is not really "natural" in any sense.

I had to stop eating Kentucky Fried Chicken in college before I even realized that I had a medical problem with free glutamates that nailed me hard 20 years later. Even 40 years ago, the Colonel had discovered that he could pile on the glutamates and increase sales. I found out in college that cramps, body aches and diarrhea after eating the Colonel's chicken were regular and predictable and were not a result of food-poisoning. My own cooking never did that to me, and I cooked a LOT of chicken.
 
  • #40
turbo-1 said:
A couple of bites of that would land me in the ER in anaphylactic shock.
I thought you said it made your blood pressure go up?
 
  • #41
Evo said:
I thought you said it made your blood pressure go up?
Nope. That's fragrance chemicals. MSG makes my blood pressure drop until the bottom reading may not even be readable. In one case, there were two ER nurses screaming at the doctor to load me with epinephrine NOW. When you are dying and unresponsive, you can still hear, and the words "we're losing him" don't sit well with me to this day.
 
  • #42
turbo-1 said:
Nope. That's fragrance chemicals. MSG makes my blood pressure drop until the bottom reading may not even be readable. In one case, there were two ER nurses screaming at the doctor to load me with epinephrine NOW. When you are dying and unresponsive, you can still hear, and the words "we're losing him" don't sit well with me to this day.

This is really deep. I'm sorry to hear that you experienced this!
 

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