Kinematics of jet-ski - how far does Sam land?

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The problem involves the kinematics of a jet-ski, specifically analyzing the motion of Sam as he takes off from a slope and attempts to determine how far he lands from the base of a cliff. The scenario includes forces acting on Sam, such as thrust and gravity, and requires understanding of projectile motion.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for acceleration and velocity components, questioning the accuracy of the original poster's computations. There is a focus on the effect of thrust after leaving the ramp and its implications for the overall motion.

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Some participants have confirmed the calculations for acceleration, while others are exploring the impact of thrust on Sam's trajectory after takeoff. The conversation indicates a productive exchange of ideas, with participants guiding each other through the reasoning process.

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There was a correction regarding Sam's mass, which may affect the calculations. Participants also express frustration with the lack of detailed solutions in textbooks, highlighting the challenges of understanding the problem fully.

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Homework Statement



Sam (5) kg takes off up a 50-m high, 10 degree frictionless slope on his jet-powered skis. The skis have a thrust of 200 N. He keeps his skis titled at 10 degrees after becoming airborne, as shown in the Figure. How far does Sam land from the base of the cliff?

I drew the picture on paint. here is the link for it:
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa59/aliatehreem/Sam.jpg


Homework Equations



F= ma
vf^ 2 = vi ^2 + 2ad
vx= v* cos theta
vy= v* sin theta

yf= yo + vt+ 0.5 *a* t^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Find length of slope:

h= 50/ (sin 10)

First I have the acceleration parallel to the motion.
F= ma
ma= F (thrust) - weight parallel
ma= 200 - mg (sine theta)
a= 0.96318

Find velocity at the end of the slope.

vf^ 2 = vi ^2 + 2ad
vf^ 2 = 0 + 2(.96318)(50/ (sin 10) )
vf = 23.55 m/s

This velocity is parallel to the slope.

To find velocity after Sam gets off the slope, in the vertical and horizontal direction, the x and y component velocities are:

vx= v* cos theta= 23.55* cos10= 23.2
vy= v* sin theta= 23.55* sin 10= 4.09

Since vertical displacement is -50 m, find time, and sub into horizontal component.

yf= yo + vt+ 0.5 *a* t^2
-50= 0 + 4.09 t + 0.5 * -9.81 * t^2
t= 3.637 s

Sub into horizontal velocity to find distance:

xf= xo + vt
xf = 23.2 (3.637) = 84.4 m

The correct answer is 110 m. Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance!
 
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First I have the acceleration parallel to the motion.
F= ma
ma= F (thrust) - weight parallel
ma= 200 - mg (sine theta)
a= 0.96318

Check these calculations. I think this is where your mistake is.
 
That was a typo. Sorry. Sam's mass is actually 75 kg.
 
ah. I knew something was off. Hold on
 
ma= 200 - mg (sine theta)
a= 0.96318

Check this calculation
 
rl.bhat said:
ma= 200 - mg (sine theta)
a= 0.96318

Check this calculation

I'm getting the same answer:

ma= 200 - mg (sine theta)
75a= 200 - (75)(9.81) (sin 10 degrees)
a= 0.96318 m/s^2.
 
Your answer appears to be correct.
 
rl.bhat said:
Your answer appears to be correct.

For the acceleration, you mean? The overall answer for some reason isn't turning out to be correct. I checked my calculations many times. In the beginning, I made a few error but then I corrected those, but the answer I'm supposed to be getting is 110 m, not 84.4 m :(. I hate textbook questions because they don't even have proper solutions, they just give the final answer without any explanation!
 
Sam is still subject to some thrust after he leaves the ramp if I'm reading the question correctly.
 
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Kurdt said:
Sam is still subject to some thrust after he leaves the ramp if I'm reading the question correctly.

Thanks a lot! That solves the mystery. I assumed that the force of thrust was only present while on the ramp. So now, I have an acceleration in both x and y directions and I can use a similar method to solve for the horizontal distance.
 
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Well tell me that when you get the right answer. I just had a quick look. :-p
 
  • #12
Kurdt said:
Well tell me that when you get the right answer. I just had a quick look. :-p


I got the answer now! Yay! Thank you so much for guiding me! I love this forum! I'm feeling more confident now and learning more things by second :D.
 
  • #13
Very good! I hope you'll be around helping other students one day. :smile:
 
  • #14
Kurdt said:
Very good! I hope you'll be around helping other students one day. :smile:

You never know!
 

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