Kinematics projectile motion with constant acceleration.

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The discussion revolves around a kinematics problem involving projectile motion with constant acceleration. The scenario describes a baseball hit at an angle, requiring participants to determine the initial speed necessary for the ball to travel a specified horizontal distance while accounting for its launch height.

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  • Participants discuss the application of constant acceleration equations and the decomposition of initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components. There are attempts to relate the equations for both the x and y directions, with questions about the assumptions regarding initial and final velocities.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the equations to use and questioning the assumptions made about the motion. Some participants express confusion about the disappearance of terms in the equations, while others clarify the relationships between the variables involved.

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Homework Statement



According to the Guinness Book of World Records, the longest home run ever measured was hit by Roy “Dizzy” Carlyle in a minor league game. The ball traveled 188 m before landing on the ground outside the ballpark.

Assuming the ball's initial velocity was 56 degrees above the horizontal and ignoring air resistance, what did the initial speed of the ball need to be to produce such a home run if the ball was hit at a point 0.9 m above ground level? Assume that the ground was perfectly flat.

Homework Equations



Any constant acceleration equations.

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok, so this is my problem. I have all the meters, but can't find any velocities.

x = 188
y= 0ay = -9.8
ax=0

Xo = 0
Yo = 0.9

? sin 56 = Voy
? cos 56 = Vox

I don't really know what to do from here. ='(

I did write 0= Voy^2+2(-9.8)(-0.9) = 4.2 m/s = Voy, and I have a lot of values after that, but I don't think I'm doing it right.
 
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Write down the constant acceleration equations that you know of, then plug in the values you have for the terms. You need only one constant acceleration equation. The one for distance.
 
0-0.9=Voy(t)+.5(-9.8)(t^2)

Vy-Voy =(-9.8)(t)

V^2y = V^2oy + 2(-9.8)(0-0.9)

Is Voy 0?
 
Voy is the component of the initial velocity in the y direction. That is, if the magnitude of the initial velocity is Vo, then it's Vo sin 56.

Also, Vox = Vo cos 56.

The three equations you have written down are correct. But you've considered only the y direction. Write down the same equations for the x direction.
 
188-0=Vox(t)

Vx = Vox

V^2x = V^ox
 
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The 3 equations you've written for the x direction are also correct.

But wait. You want to add something to your equations for the y direction? Why do you think 0= V^2oy- V^2y ?
 
omoplata said:
The 3 equations you've written for the x direction are also correct.

But wait. You want to add something to your equations for the y direction? Why do you think 0= V^2oy- V^2y ?

I think they equal zero because the velocity at he beginning will equal the velocity at the end, except it will be negative, thus giving me Voy=4.2 m/s.
 
The equation of motion is,

V^2y = V^2oy + 2*ay*(y-Yo)

So,

V^2y - V^2oy = 2*ay*(y-Yo)

Which is not equal to 0. The velocity at a height of 0.9 m will be the negative of velocity at the beginning. Not the velocity at 0 height.

OK, proceeding with the solution to the problem,

You have for the y direction,

0-0.9=Voy(t)+.5(-9.8)(t^2)
Vy-Voy =(-9.8)(t)
V^2y = V^2oy + 2(-9.8)(0-0.9)

You have for the x direction,

188-0=Vox(t)
Vx = Vox
V^2x = V^ox

Also you have,

Vox = Vo cos 56
Voy = Vo sin 56

Which ones of these 8 equations can you use to find the answer. Look for common variables between equations.
 
Ok, thanks for the explanation.

188= Vo(cos 56)t

-0.9=Vo(sin 56)t
 
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Crusaderking1 said:
-0.9=Vo(sin 56)t

Where did you get this one from?
 
  • #11
omoplata said:
Where did you get this one from?

x-xo = Vo(cos 56)t
188-0= Vo(cos 56)t

y-yo = Vo(sin 56)t
0-0.9= Vo(sin 56)t
 
  • #12
Crusaderking1 said:
y-yo = Vo(sin 56)t
0-0.9= Vo(sin 56)t

You had this equation before,

0-0.9=Voy(t)+.5(-9.8)(t^2)

How did the ".5(-9.8)(t^2)" term disappear?
 
  • #13
omoplata said:
You had this equation before,

0-0.9=Voy(t)+.5(-9.8)(t^2)

How did the ".5(-9.8)(t^2)" term disappear?

ok, it doesn't.

Thanks.
 
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part b) How far would the ball be above a fence 3.0m high if the fence was 116 m from home plate?

I received 45 m/s for initial velocity finally! thanks!

I don't know where to start part b.

nevermind, i did it.
 
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Crusaderking1 said:
nevermind, i did it.

Do you mean you did part b) ?
 

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