Kinetic Energy and Parabolic Motion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy of a shell fired at an angle, specifically at its highest point in parabolic motion. The subject area includes concepts of kinetic energy, projectile motion, and vector components.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore whether the kinetic energy should be considered zero at the highest point due to the vertical velocity being zero, questioning the relevance of the horizontal component. There is discussion about using the horizontal velocity for kinetic energy calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the necessity of using the horizontal component of velocity for calculating kinetic energy, emphasizing that the shell continues to move horizontally at its peak height. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding the role of vertical and horizontal components in kinetic energy calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the projectile's initial angle affects the horizontal component of velocity, which remains unchanged throughout the flight, highlighting the distinction between vertical and horizontal motion in projectile dynamics.

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Homework Statement


A shell of mass 50kg is fired at 60 degress to the horizontal with a speed of 200 m/s. Neglecting air resistance,calculate the kinetic energy of the shell at the highest point.


Homework Equations


K.E=.5(m)(v)^2
usin(θ)
ucos(θ)


The Attempt at a Solution


My question is shouldn't the K.E of the shell is 0? Since the vertical velocity is zero at the highest point. Should I use horizontal velocty instead? why is that so?

If i use horizontal velocity: 200cos60=100
K.E=(1/2)(50)(100)^2=2.5*10^5
 
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thoradicus said:
My question is shouldn't the K.E of the shell is 0? Since the vertical velocity is zero at the highest point. Should I use horizontal velocty instead? why is that so?
You need the total velocity to calculate the KE. But since the vertical component is zero at the highest point, all you need is the horizontal component.

If i use horizontal velocity: 200cos60=100
K.E=(1/2)(50)(100)^2=2.5*10^5
Exactly. (Don't forget units.)
 
thoradicus said:

Homework Statement


A shell of mass 50kg is fired at 60 degress to the horizontal with a speed of 200 m/s. Neglecting air resistance,calculate the kinetic energy of the shell at the highest point.


Homework Equations


K.E=.5(m)(v)^2
usin(θ)
ucos(θ)


The Attempt at a Solution


My question is shouldn't the K.E of the shell is 0? Since the vertical velocity is zero at the highest point. Should I use horizontal velocty instead? why is that so?

If i use horizontal velocity: 200cos60=100
K.E=(1/2)(50)(100)^2=2.5*10^5

KE is the energy of motion. The shell is still moving when it's at its zenith (it's moving horizontally).

You could calculate the KE in terms of components, vertical and horizontal, then add them like you add vector components to find the magnitude. But since you know that the vertical component is zero when the shell is at its maximum height, the calculation simplifies to being just the KE due to the horizontal component.
 
yes u have to use the horizontal component of velocity in this case.
remember the velocity is zero at the topmost point only when the projectile is fired vertically, i.e, with zero horizontal component of velocity. if it is fired with some angle other than 90 deg with the horizontal it has a non zero velocity at the top. that velocity = the initial horizontal component of the velocity. this remains unchanged through out the flight as the gravitational force is a vertical (downward) one and as such can not affect the horizontal component of velocity.
 

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