Kinetics in Nromal and Tangential coordinates - SPINING ROD W/ SPOOL

In summary, the problem involves a 2-kg spool on an inclined rod with a coefficient of static friction of 0.2. The maximum speed the spool can have without slipping up the rod is determined to be 0.969 m/s. However, the answer in the text states 1.48 m/s, possibly due to the direction of the friction force not being taken into account in the equations.
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Kinetics in Nromal and Tangential coordinates - SPINNING ROD W/ SPOOL

The 2-kg spool fits loosely on the inclined rod for which the coefficient of static friction is [itex]\mu_s\,=\,0.2[/itex]. If the spool is located 0.25 m from A, determine the maximum speed the spool can have so that it does not slip up the rod.

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Here is what I have for this problem, but it is wrong according to the answer in the text:

[tex]sin\,\theta\,=\,\frac{3}{5}[/tex]

[tex]\theta\,=\,36.9[/tex]

[tex]\sum\,F_x\,=\,N\,cos\,53.1\,-\,f_s\,cos\,36.9\,=\,m\,a_n[/tex]

[tex]\sum\,F_y\,=\,N\,sin\,53.1\,+\,f_s\,sin\,36.9\,-\,m\,g\,=\,m\,a_y[/tex]

[tex]N\,=\,\frac{m\,g}{sin\,53.1\,+\,\mu_s\,sin\,36.9}[/tex]

[tex]N\,=\,21.31\,N[/tex]

Then I use another version of the [itex]F_x[/itex] equation to solve for [itex]v_{max}[/itex]:

[tex]N\,cos53.1\,-\,N\,\mu_s\,cos\,36.9\,=\,m\,\frac{v_{max}^2}{\rho}[/tex]

[tex]v_{max}^2\,=\,\frac{9.39}{10}[/tex]

[tex]v_{max}\,=\,0.969\,\frac{m}{s}[/tex]

The answer is 1.48 in the text though! Any suggestions?
 
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What's the direction of the friction force on the spool?
 
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Down the rod towards point A, right?
 
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Exactly. Now revise your equations accordingly.
 

1. What is the difference between normal and tangential coordinates in kinetics?

Normal coordinates refer to the direction perpendicular to the surface of an object, while tangential coordinates refer to the direction parallel to the surface. In the case of a spinning rod with a spool, the normal coordinates would be in the direction of the rod's axis, while the tangential coordinates would be in the direction of the rod's rotation.

2. How do normal and tangential coordinates affect the motion of a spinning rod with a spool?

The normal coordinates determine the stability of the rod, while the tangential coordinates affect the speed and direction of rotation. If the normal coordinates are unstable, the rod will wobble and potentially fall. The tangential coordinates determine the angular velocity and direction of rotation.

3. What is the importance of considering normal and tangential coordinates in studying the kinetics of a spinning rod with a spool?

Normal and tangential coordinates are crucial in understanding the mechanics of a spinning rod with a spool. They allow us to analyze the stability and motion of the rod and predict its behavior in different scenarios. Without considering these coordinates, our understanding of the system would be incomplete.

4. How can we calculate the normal and tangential forces acting on a spinning rod with a spool?

The normal force can be calculated by taking the component of the weight of the rod perpendicular to the surface, while the tangential force can be calculated by taking the component of the tension in the string parallel to the surface. Other factors such as air resistance may also contribute to the forces acting on the system.

5. How do normal and tangential coordinates change as the spinning rod with a spool slows down or speeds up?

As the rod slows down, the normal and tangential coordinates will change accordingly. The normal coordinates may become more unstable, and the tangential coordinates will decrease in magnitude. As the rod speeds up, the normal and tangential coordinates will change as well, with the normal coordinates becoming more stable and the tangential coordinates increasing in magnitude.

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