Kirchoff's Rules, Mathmatical/Logic help?

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The discussion revolves around applying Kirchhoff's rules to a circuit problem involving multiple unknown currents. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the solution presented in their textbook, particularly in understanding how to derive the unknown variables from the given equations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the necessity of having an additional equation to solve for three unknowns, suggesting that Kirchhoff's first rule could provide this. There are mentions of various methods to solve linear systems of equations, with one participant recalling their past experiences with similar problems.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the requirements for solving the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for additional equations and methods to approach the solution, but no consensus has been reached on the specific steps to take.

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There is a request for the circuit diagram, indicating that visual information may be crucial for understanding the problem. The original poster also notes a significant gap in their mathematical skills due to a long break from education, which may affect their ability to engage with the material.

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Hello all. I feel like such a retard, but there's an example problem in my book with the answer, and I just don't know how they are getting the answer. I suppose it's due to my lack of mathematical skills. I was wondering if someone could guide me on how they got the answer.

[PLAIN]http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5328/kirchoff.jpg

The answer is at the bottom. I just don't understand how they are getting IofA, IofB, and IofH. I do realize that I = V/R, but I'm confused because their are 2 unknown variables in each question. I apologize in advance for my stupidity. :(
 
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For one thing, there must be one more equation as there are three unknowns. I suppose the third one comes form the first Kirchoff's rule applied to one of the nodes.

So you'll have 3 equations and 3 unknowns. There are several methods to solve linear systems of equations.
You don;t know any of them?
The most straightforward (not always the simpler) is to solve one equation for one of the unknowns (in terms of the other unknowns) and replace the expression in the other two. You'll have two equations with two unknowns. Then you repeat the procedure.
 
Please attach the circuit diagram.
 
nasu said:
For one thing, there must be one more equation as there are three unknowns. I suppose the third one comes form the first Kirchoff's rule applied to one of the nodes.

So you'll have 3 equations and 3 unknowns. There are several methods to solve linear systems of equations.
You don;t know any of them?
The most straightforward (not always the simpler) is to solve one equation for one of the unknowns (in terms of the other unknowns) and replace the expression in the other two. You'll have two equations with two unknowns. Then you repeat the procedure.

Ah, I apologize, didn't know the first equation that they gave was really relevant in solving the problem. But yeah, I took about a 6 year break from college, and it's been about 8 years since I've taken a dedicated math course, so I've mostly just forgot how to do this kind of math. Most of the things are coming back to me after I see how they are done though.


rl.bhat said:
Please attach the circuit diagram.

Sorry about that. Hope this helps:

[PLAIN]http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4229/kirchoff2.jpg
 
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