Klein-Gordon Equation: Derivation of Density Relativistic Transform

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The forum discussion centers on the derivation of the Klein-Gordon (KG) equation and its associated current density in the context of relativistic quantum field theory. The expression for the density, given as ρ = (iħ/2m)(φ*∂φ/∂t - φ∂φ*/∂t), is derived from the continuity equation and the conservation of current, as established through Noether's theorem applied to the KG Lagrangian. The participants emphasize the necessity of using quantized fields rather than classical fields for a proper relativistic description, and the coupling of the KG field to the electromagnetic field is discussed as a gauge-invariant approach. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationship between the current density and the density in the framework of quantum field theory.

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Hello, I have a question. In Ryder chapter 2, he develops the KG equation and says something along the lines of "the density, in order to be relativistic, must transform like the time component of a 4 vector" and he immediately gives:
\rho=\frac{i\hbar}{2m}\left(\phi^*\frac{\partial \phi}{\partial t}-\phi\frac{\partial \phi^*}{\partial t}\right)

Where did this come from? Seems like he just pulled it out of thin air...o.o
 
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Well, that's anyway not a very good explanation. First of all, in relativistic quantum theory, a one-particle description doesn't make sense (except for free particles), and thus one should immediately use quantized fields rather than classical fields.

Then, the idea is to get relavistically covariant field equations (for the field operators). Thus the most convenient starting point is a Poincare invariant action with a Lagrange density that depends only on the fields and the first space-time derivatives. For the free field there should be no higher powers of field operators and their derivatives than 2nd. Thus, the most simple possibility is

S[\phi]=\int \mathrm{d}^4 x [(\partial_{\mu} \phi^\dagger)(\partial^{\mu} \phi) - m^2 \phi^{\dagger} \phi ].

Hamilton's principle leads to the Klein-Gordan equation,

(\Box+m^2) \phi=(\Box+m^2) \phi^{\dagger}=0.

Now, if you want to interpret the field operator to describe, e.g., the electromagnetics of charged scalar bosons, you need to couple this to the electromagnetic field in a gauge invariant way since the electromagnetic field is described by a massless vector field, and if you do not describe it as a gauge field already the representation theory of the Poincare group tells you said all hell breaks loose. So better describe it as a gauge field.

The standard description is to substitute

\partial_{\mu} \rightarrow D_{\mu}=\partial_{\mu}+\mathrm{i} q A_{\mu}.

Then the variation of the corresponding action and setting A_{\mu}=0 leads to the conserved electromagnetic current for a free Klein-Gordon field,

j_{\mu} = \mathrm{i} q (\phi^{\dagger} \partial_{\mu} \phi - (\partial \mu \phi^{\dagger}) \phi).

Imho that's the most physically motivated explanation for using this expression as the four-current density of a Klein-Gordon field, and its time component is (the operator representing) the charge density of the corresponding Bose particles.
 
One way of seeing p as the time component:
If I recall right...
Your problem can be solved by writting the continuity equation:
dp/dt = div[J]
where p is the density and J is the current.
or in other words the 4-D equation:
D_{μ} J^{μ}=0

where

J^{μ}= (p, Jx,Jy,Jz)

As you can see straightforward from this, p is indeadly transformed as the time component of a 4vector.

Now why it has that form, I don't have Ryder to check straightforward, but generally by the form of Klein Gordan equation you can see that the Current is the divergence of the quantity:
\nabla[J]=\frac{ih}{2m} (φ* \frac{d^{2}φ}{dt^{2}} - φ \frac{d^{2}φ*}{dt^{2}})

and from there you see that the time derivative of your given p is truly giving you the divergence of current, and comes as the solution of the continuity equation
 
@Vanhees: I am aware that the one particle description is inadequate (Ryder says this later on in the chapter after giving arguments such as the density is not positive definite and so cannot be interpreted as a probability density), I was just wondering where he got that particular expression all of a sudden.

@Morgoth: I think I got it. If I posit the continuity equation and the (3) current, then I can get the density. Is there perhaps some way to get the density without positing the current? It seems you need one to get the other.
 
i don't think there is, since the DJ=0 shows a conservation and that conservation means that "particles" are not created or lost, as you already know from the continuity equation... It is rather fundamental ...
 
I just looked at Peskin and Schroeder and they showed how to derive this "conserved current" using Noether's theorem on the KG Lagrangian. I should have realized that this could be done earlier. =]
 
well in fact I don't know but I personally have not sufficient knowledge over QFT, so i would not fall into Lagrangians for KG (for now).
Of course conserved quantities in QM hide some kind of Symmetry of Lagrangian and Noether's theorem can be used...
 

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