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Misuses of language, such as the incorrect use of "literally" and the confusion between "borrow" and "lend," are significant points of frustration for many. Pronunciation errors, like saying "eck-cetera" instead of "et cetera," also draw criticism, particularly among professionals. The debate between descriptivists and prescriptivists highlights the evolving nature of language, with some arguing that new usages can dilute clarity. Common mistakes, including "I could care less" and the misuse of "less" versus "fewer," further complicate communication. Overall, these linguistic missteps reflect broader issues in language comprehension and usage.
  • #181
it made sense the first time (clans that banned together)
 
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  • #182
netgypsy said:
it made sense the first time (clans that banned together)

While its use in the article still yields a grammatically correct sentence, I don't think it fits the context of the statement.
 
  • #183
darn - I liked it better than banded

I was shopping in a hardware store in a Spanish speaking country and asked for plastic manure instead of plastic wood. When I got some really strange looks I realized my error and probably turned all shades of red.
 
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  • #184
Past time for pastime. Found it here.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/economy-bad-many-crushing-millennials-163558817.html
 
  • #185
More a science issue than a grammar issue, but I was just at a conference on energy conservation and one speaker kept saying kW instead of kWh. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

Another one that appears to be getting worse is "there".
 
  • #186
In that same ballpark is "calories". Food of such and such calories. 200 calories is bad 100 calories is better.

But it's not calories, it's kilo calories. But we should go metric and talk kilo Joule.
 
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  • #187
Many people confuse "less" with "fewer", and it bugs me to see news-readers on the TV make that mistake.
 
  • #188
This one is so pervasive and it absolutely drives me insane: the use of your instead of you're when appropriate.
 
  • #189
your kidding :smile: Don't lose you're wit. :biggrin:
 
  • #190
WannabeNewton said:
the use of your instead of you're when appropriate.

I have to admit that's one plus for text-speak, which would be "yr" either way. :rolleyes:
 
  • #191
andre said:
your kidding :smile: Don't lose you're wit. :biggrin:
hulk smash!
 
  • #192
jtbell said:
I have to admit that's one plus for text-speak, which would be "yr" either way. :rolleyes:
Text speak is so simple yet so powerful :biggrin:
 
  • #193
WannabeNewton said:
Text speak is so simple yet so powerful :biggrin:
How does it handle "there", "they're", "their", and other problems? I want to deal with such misuse, but am unable, due to the sheer volume of errors.

English is probably a tough language, but look at Borek's posts. He writes better than most native-speakers!
 
  • #194
have the greatest respect for anyone who lives in the US and is not a native English speaker.

Care to mention England perhaps? Where English IS the native language.
 
  • #195
JizzaDaMan said:
...

It looks like you spelled "Da" wrong. :-p
 
  • #196
jtbell said:
"I could care less" which really means "I couldn't care less."

"I could care less" is an ironic (sardonic) phrasing, which is quite acceptable to me. If anything, it emphasises utter disdain even more than the literal phrasing.
 
  • #197
Curious3141 said:
"I could care less" is an ironic (sardonic) phrasing, which is quite acceptable to me. If anything, it emphasises utter disdain even more than the literal phrasing.
I disagree.

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/care.html
 
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  • #198
vela said:
I disagree.

http://public.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/care.html
True, the correct saying is "I couldn't care less". It's a put down meaning "I don't give a damn."

The mistaken "i could care less" isn't a put down, it means "I do care" and it's just people hearing and repeating the correct phrase wrong.
 
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  • #199
Andre said:
In that same ballpark is "calories". Food of such and such calories. 200 calories is bad 100 calories is better.

But it's not calories, it's kilo calories.
This isn't entirely true. There are two kinds of calories, "gram calories" and "kilogram calories". The former is the energy it takes to heat 1 gram of water by 1 degree Celcius. The latter is the energy it takes to heat 1 kilogram of water by 1 degree Celcius. Since "kilo" also means 1000, what one person calls "100 calories" can be "100 kilocalories" to another, because the first person means "100 kilogram calories", and the second person means "100000 gram calories". So they can actually both be right, because the same name is used for two different units.
 
  • #200
Evo said:
True, the correct saying is "I couldn't care less". It's a put down meaning "I don't give a damn."

The mistaken "i could care less" isn't a put down, it means "I do care" and it's just people hearing and repeating the correct phrase wrong.
I think Curious meant that some people are saying it wrong on purpose.

We have a few phrases like that in Sweden. One phrase that was popular about 15 years ago is "hur bra är det på en skala?" which translates to "how good is that on a scale?". When I first heard it, I thought the people saying it had to be complete idiots. Obviously, you have to specify the scale, like "how good is that on a scale from 1 to 10?". But I soon discovered that people who use this phrase understand this. They think it's funny precisely because it doesn't make sense.

Of course, there's an important difference between this and "I could care less". The difference is that no one really uses the logically correct question.
 
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  • #201
WannabeNewton said:
This one is so pervasive and it absolutely drives me insane: the use of your instead of you're when appropriate.
People don't seem to realize that most of these errors are typos, not evidence of poor grammar. The words that are the biggest problem for me are "its" and "it's". I understand these words perfectly, and yet, every time I need to type one of them, there's a 50% probability that I'll end up typing "its", and a 50% probability that I'll end up typing "it's". My brain imagines the sound of the word, and then my fingers type one of the words that sound like that, before I have even realized what I'm doing.

There is however no excuse for "should of" instead of "should've" or (better) "should have".
 
  • #202
Fredrik said:
I think Curious meant that some people are saying it wrong on purpose.
Some people might, but in my experience, most people say "could care less" because they don't know any better. As far as the claim of irony goes, it just doesn't work.

Fredrik said:
People don't seem to realize that most of these errors are typos, not evidence of poor grammar.
Perhaps for you they're typos, but I think for most, the error stems from ignorance. If they were simply typos, I doubt the use of it's to mean its would be so prevalent.
 
  • #203
vela said:
Some people might, but in my experience, most people say "could care less" because they don't know any better. As far as the claim of irony goes, it just doesn't work.
Anyone that says "could care less" on purpose, knowing it's wrong (are there really any?) don't realize what they're actually saying. There is no irony, it's just plain wrong and so makes the speaker sound silly.
 
  • #204
Evo said:
"I don't give a damn."

Not a single damn was received by anybody that day.
 
  • #205
-None of them "are" and neither of them "are". "None" literally means "not one" and "neither" means "not the one nor the other". My friends laughed at me for saying this. Luckily, I had my OED in my backpack and got the last laugh.

-After getting into the habit of not ending sentences with prepositions, people doing the opposite has started to annoy me. People mixing up pronouns gets on my nerves as well. However, doing these when speaking is more excusable than doing them when writing.

-Using words incorrectly, obviously.

Our beautiful language is precious and needs to be defended!
 
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  • #206
Frankly my dear, I could care less.
 
  • #207
FreeMitya said:
-After getting into the habit of not ending sentences with prepositions,
Why? Just to irritate people?
 
  • #208
Fredrik said:
Why? Just to irritate people?

I'm a perfectionist. To me, rules are rules, and I will follow them to the best of my ability. Note that I usually won't obnoxiously correct someone unless I'm deliberately trying to irritate a family member or a close friend. It is just a fairly minor annoyance.
 
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  • #209
I get peeved when people can't manage to use "less" and "fewer" correctly. It's not rocket-surgery! This is a common error in our local newspaper, so apparently the editors haven't a clue.
 
  • #210
I read a history book that mentioned "they were loosing the battle."
 

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