Laplace Transform L[x(t)] given, find L[tx(t)]

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The discussion revolves around finding the Laplace transform L[tx(t)] given L[x(t)] = (s + 4)/(s^2 + 1). Participants clarify that the problem is indeed asking for the Laplace transform of the function obtained by multiplying x(t) by t. The relevant property used is L[tf(t)] = -dF(s)/ds, which leads to the derivative of the given function. The derivative is calculated as (1)(s^2 + 1) - (2s)(s + 4) / (s^2 + 1)^2, and participants confirm the need to simplify this expression to arrive at the final result. The discussion concludes with acknowledgment of the negative sign in the derivative, leading to the correct formulation for L[tx(t)].
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Homework Statement



If L[x(t)] = (s + 4)/(s2 + 1), find L[tx(t)]

Homework Equations


Laplace transform:

F(s) = 0∫ f(t)e-stdtLaplace table

The Attempt at a Solution


Clearly it's not just asking for a Laplace transform. Not sure what it's specifically asking to be honest.

t multiplied by whatever is inside the equation definitely isn't the answer.
 
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Color_of_Cyan said:

Homework Statement



If L[x(t)] = (s + 4)/(s2 + 1), find L[tx(t)]

Homework Equations


Laplace transform:

F(s) = 0∫ f(t)e-stdtLaplace table

The Attempt at a Solution


Clearly it's not just asking for a Laplace transform.
Clearly it is. There are a couple of approaches you could take, but I'd like to see what you have tried before I share them with you.
Color_of_Cyan said:
Not sure what it's specifically asking to be honest.

t multiplied by whatever is inside the equation definitely isn't the answer.
I don't know what this means...
 
Color_of_Cyan said:
Not sure what it's specifically asking to be honest.

Is it asking for the Laplace transform of the function ##t x(t)## (i.e., the function obtained by multiplying ##x(t)## by ##t##), given the Laplace transform of ##x(t)##? That's what it looks like to me, but I'd like to make sure you have transcribed the problem statement correctly.

Also, please show us explicitly your attempt at a solution(i.e., with equations showing the steps of the calculation you attempted). Just describing it in words isn't enough.
 
Okay, there seems to be one property that sticks out for this:

L[tf(t)] = -dF(s)/ds

L[x(t)] = (s+4)/(s2 + 1)

L[f(t)] = (s+4)/(s2 + 1). Then find L[tf(t)]

$$\frac{d} {ds} [\frac {s+4} {s^2 + 1}] $$

Just this derivative?

= (d/ds)[(s+4)/(s2 + 1)-1]

=
$$ \frac {(1)(s^2 + 1) - (2s)(s+4)} {{(s^2 + 1)}^2} $$

Would I need only simplify the rest of this to get L[tx(t)] ?
 
Color_of_Cyan said:
Okay, there seems to be one property that sticks out for this:

L[tf(t)] = -dF(s)/ds

L[x(t)] = (s+4)/(s2 + 1)

L[f(t)] = (s+4)/(s2 + 1). Then find L[tf(t)]

$$\frac{d} {ds} [\frac {s+4} {s^2 + 1}] $$

Just this derivative?

= (d/ds)[(s+4)/(s2 + 1)-1]

=
$$ \frac {(1)(s^2 + 1) - (2s)(s+4)} {{(s^2 + 1)}^2} $$

Would I need only simplify the rest of this to get L[tx(t)] ?
Yes
 
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Okay, thanks! :)

Edit: Oh wait I forgot that there was a negative sign by the derivative, so

(s2 + 8s - 1)/(s2 + 1)2
 
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