Laplacian of Nabla x v in Cylindrical Coordinates

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The discussion revolves around applying the Laplacian operator to the curl of a vector field in cylindrical coordinates, specifically for a vector field defined as \(\vec{v} = v(\rho)\hat{z}\). The original poster is attempting to derive the equation from the expression \(\nabla^2(\nabla \times \vec{v}) = 0\).

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Laplacian in cylindrical coordinates, with one participant expressing difficulty in using software (Maple) to compute it. Others suggest simplifying the problem by focusing on the dependence on the \(\theta\) direction and the radius. There are questions about the correct form of the Laplacian and how to apply it to the vector field.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights and references to external resources, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the application of the Laplacian to vector fields. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in the problem, and multiple interpretations of the approach are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the specific form of the vector field and the need to apply the Laplacian correctly in cylindrical coordinates. There is also a mention of the absence of a vector form answer in the resources consulted.

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Homework Statement



In cylindrical:

Get [tex]\frac{1}{\rho} \frac{d}{dp} \left( \rho\frac{d^2 v}{d\rho^2}\right) - \frac{1}{\rho^2}\frac{dv}{dp} = 0[/tex]

Out of [tex]\nabla^2\left(\nabla \times \vec{v}\right) = 0[/tex]

where [tex]\vec{v} = v(\rho)\hat{z}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I get [tex]\nabla \times \vec{v} = -\frac{dv}{dp}\hat{\theta}[/tex]

But how do I apply the Laplacian? I can't even get that out of Maple.
 
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So I should be applying [tex]\nable^2 f = \frac{1}{\rho} \frac{d}{d\rho}\left(\rho\frac{df}{d\rho}\right) + \frac{1}{\rho^2}\frac{d^2f}{d\theta^2} + \frac{d^2f}{dz^2}[/tex] (all should be partials)

to simply [tex]f = -\frac{dv}{d\rho}\hat{\theta}[/tex]?

and use the derivatives of the unit vectors here http://mathworld.wolfram.com/CylindricalCoordinates.html?
 
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I got [tex]\left[ \frac{1}{\rho^2}\frac{dv}{dp} - \frac{1}{\rho} \frac{d}{dp} \left( \rho\frac{d^2 v}{d\rho^2}\right) \right] \hat{\theta} = 0[/tex]

This making sense anyone? Thanks
 
Thats exactly what you were looking for right?
 
Yeah. I guess applying the Laplacian to a vector messed me up a bit.

I also wonder why they don't give the answer in vector form...
 

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