Large Electromagnetic Jig Project

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of creating a large electromagnetic jig for assembling wiring harnesses. Participants explore the feasibility of using an electromagnetic system to hold components in place during the assembly process, considering both design and practical implications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using a metal sheet with a full-size drawing and magnetic blocks to hold cables in place while assembling wiring harnesses.
  • Another participant suggests that a photo or drawing of the proposed jig would be helpful for clarity.
  • A participant notes that existing methods for mass production harnesses are cost-effective but may not suit low-volume or prototype needs, advocating for a more flexible jig design.
  • One participant introduces the idea of using an electromagnetic chuck as a backboard plate, mentioning the high cost and size limitations of such devices.
  • There is a concern raised about the strength of magnets needed to hold copper cables of varying sizes, questioning whether the proposed system could effectively manage this requirement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the practicality and design of the proposed jig. There is no consensus on the feasibility of the electromagnetic approach, and multiple viewpoints regarding design and cost considerations remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for a flexible design that can accommodate changes and low-volume production, indicating potential limitations in the proposed electromagnetic system's adaptability.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in wiring harness assembly, jig design, and electromagnetic applications in manufacturing may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi all, I am looking at the possibility of creating a large magnetic jig for making up wiring harnesses.

Currently we use wooden boards 2400 x 1200mm and simply put a full size drawing of the wiring harness on it and bang in nails. Although this is OK for some harnesses it is not ideal. We previously used roofing bolts and made permanent jigs but found that this was wasteful and storage was a problem.

The idea is to have a metal sheet of say for arguments sake 1000mm tall and 2000mm long.
Then lay on the fullsize drawing of same size, lay a thin sheet of perspex or similar clear plastic over the front to keep the drawing in place and protect it.
then we would simply place some kind of pre made blocks with a 4" peg in it to hold the cables while they were placed on the jig to create the wiring harness shape.

These blocks would have to be held in place magnetically so therefore I thought that we could somehow create an electromagnetic jig board perhaps with 2 settings.
Setting 1 to place the magnetic blocks and to have enough pull to hold them on the board but to allow them to be moved around easily.
Setting 2 would then presumably put more current through or turn on an additional circuit to hold the blocks tight.

We would then assemble the harnesses, remove the harness, flick the switch the blocks would drop off the board (or become very easy to remove) and put a new drawing into start the process again.

One thing that crossed my mind is the fact that the cables themselves are copper cables and range in metric size from 0.5mm up to about 16mm (we do use up to 25mm in some assemblies).
I am unsure if this would be an issue as I believe they would require a very strong magnet for a reaction?

Is this a stupid idea that could not work or is there any mileage in it.
I would love as much feed back as possible and any ideas would be very welcome.

many thanks Max
 
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What would help is a photo or drawing of what you propose.

I found these pictures of wiring harnesses and they all seem to be customized to the project at hand.

https://www.google.com/#q=wiring+harness+jig&safe=off

Also, I found there were some patents of novel harnessing systems so its an area of active interest.
 
Hi, yes some of the methods in these pictures we employ for mass production harnesses as we can easily absorb cost of jig cost and labour involved over many harnesses. However to keep cost down and speed up the process for prototypes and very low volumes we are looking to utilise the fullsize drawing we already create for the harness.
The harnesses you see in the picture are made by jig makers and are then stored for use. The jigs we are looking to have will be used probably only once or they will have several changes until the product is finally released to production.
 
Magno-Jig

Here is a sketch of what i had in mind. Its PDF.

thanks
 

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