Laser or the torchlight does not bend 90 degrees?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of light from lasers and torchlights, particularly in terms of visibility and interaction with the environment. Participants explore concepts related to light propagation, scattering, and potential experimental setups involving lasers.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why light from a laser or torchlight can be seen across a room if it travels in a straight line and does not bend.
  • There is a suggestion that visibility of the light beam may depend on the presence of particles in the air that scatter the light, as opposed to a vacuum where such scattering would not occur.
  • One participant mentions the technique of using smoke to visualize laser beams, referencing its portrayal in movies.
  • A question is raised about the interaction between two laser beams (red and blue) that meet at a point, with one participant asserting that there is no collision, while another suggests the possibility of wave superposition.
  • Participants discuss the practical implications of visualizing laser beams in laboratory settings, including the use of smoke and other methods to reveal light paths.
  • One participant describes an experiment involving a laser passing through a prism and a narrow gap, questioning whether this constitutes a diffraction experiment.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the visibility of laser beams in a vacuum versus an environment with particles. There is also disagreement regarding the interaction of laser beams at a point of intersection, with some suggesting superposition effects while others deny any collision. The discussion remains unresolved on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various experimental setups and conditions that may affect the visibility and interaction of light, but these discussions are contingent on specific environmental factors and assumptions about light behavior.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in optics, laser technology, and experimental physics may find the discussion relevant, particularly those exploring light behavior and visualization techniques.

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Consider a situation where a friend have a red laser or a torchlight shining across the room. And you are standing at the side, perpendicular to the light beam. If light traverse in a straight line, why is that you can see the light shining across the room when you know that the light that comes out from the laser or the torchlight does not bend 90 degrees?
 
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touqra said:
Consider a situation where a friend have a red laser or a torchlight shining across the room. And you are standing at the side, perpendicular to the light beam. If light traverse in a straight line, why is that you can see the light shining across the room when you know that the light that comes out from the laser or the torchlight does not bend 90 degrees?

Hint: do you think you will see the light beam going across if, instead, this was done in a good vacuum (10^-5 torr would be sufficient)?

Zz.

P.S. Eeek! If I knew that you were also going to SPAM this question in other parts of PF, I wouldn't have responded.
 
ZapperZ said:
Hint: do you think you will see the light beam going across if, instead, this was done in a good vacuum (10^-5 torr would be sufficient)?

Zz.

P.S. Eeek! If I knew that you were also going to SPAM this question in other parts of PF, I wouldn't have responded.

I'm new here and I don't know where this question should go.

Why is it that you can't see the light beam if it is in a vacuum? Do you mean dust particles in the way of the beam scattered some of the light away from the original straight direction and traverse into our eyes?
 
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Yes, that is correct.
 
By the same token, how do you find laser beams? You spray smoke throughout the room. Haven't you seen this technique done in movies? The burglar enters the office, and sprays the interior with smoke from a can. The laser light beams magically appear.
 
JohnDubYa said:
By the same token, how do you find laser beams? You spray smoke throughout the room. Haven't you seen this technique done in movies? The burglar enters the office, and sprays the interior with smoke from a can. The laser light beams magically appear.

Ooops my bad. I overlook this.
I have one more question.
If let say the red laser is still shining across the room. But on top of that, another blue laser is also shining, but it is traversing perpendicular to the red laser beam. So, there would be a point, where both laser beam will meet each other. What actually happen at this point of collision?
 
touqra said:
I have one more question.
If let say the red laser is still shining across the room. But on top of that, another blue laser is also shining, but it is traversing perpendicular to the red laser beam. So, there would be a point, where both laser beam will meet each other. What actually happen at this point of collision?
Nothing at all. There is no collision.
 
Wouldn't there be a superposition of waves destructive or constructive?
 
JohnDubYa said:
By the same token, how do you find laser beams? You spray smoke throughout the room. Haven't you seen this technique done in movies? The burglar enters the office, and sprays the interior with smoke from a can. The laser light beams magically appear.

In the movies, maybe. Anyone doing that in an optics lab would be rudely introduced to some high-voltage equipment.
 
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Wouldn't there be a superposition of light waves, destructive or constructive?
 
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swansont said:
In the movies, maybe. Anyone doing that in an optics lab would be rudely introduced to some high-voltage equipment.
Humm... My first optics/Laser class was done will smoking inside was PC. When we needed a beam finder the PROFFESSOR would light up a cig and start blowing smoke.
 
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Integral said:
Humm... My first optics/Laser class was done will smoking inside was PC. When we needed a beam finder the PROFFESSOR would light up a cig and start blowing smoke.

Ack! That's a class, though. That wouldn't make him too popular with any grad students he might have, had their research been messed up by that. There was one prof I know who wouldn't let a student in who had smoked unless she had showered and changed clothes since - he was worried about anything that might have been collected by her clothes or her hair. (dye laser with frequency doubling)

When we wanted to show off our beams we got ahold of some dry ice or liquid nitrogen and used the condensing vapor.
 
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i shone a red laser through a prism then through the gap on some nail clippers as i reduced the gap manually and onto my wall, the laser dot reduced to a wide straight line as i reduced the clipper gap, brighter in the middle but the line was rotated 90deg to the orientation of the nail clipper slot. why is that? have i just carried out a very inpromptu diffraction experiment?
 
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bootsam said:
i shone a red laser through a prism then through the gap on some nail clippers as i reduced the gap manually and onto my wall, the laser dot reduced to a wide straight line as i reduced the clipper gap, brighter in the middle but the line was rotated 90deg to the orientation of the nail clipper slot. why is that? have i just carried out a very inpromptu diffraction experiment?

Sounds like it. Did you notice any minima or maxima?
 

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