LED vs Plain Diodes: What's the Difference?

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The discussion revolves around the differences between light-emitting diodes (LEDs) and regular diodes, focusing on their operational principles, light emission, and related concepts in semiconductor physics. Participants explore theoretical aspects, practical implications, and the nature of radiation emitted by these devices.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the difference between LEDs and normal diodes, noting that both involve electron recombination but wonders why normal diodes do not emit visible light.
  • Another participant explains that the bandgap in LEDs is designed for radiative recombination, unlike that in standard diodes, which contributes to the difference in light emission.
  • It is mentioned that LEDs typically have a higher voltage drop compared to normal diodes, which is attributed to their different operational characteristics.
  • Some participants assert that all diodes emit radiation, but the visibility of that radiation varies, suggesting that solar cells and regular diodes also fall under the category of LEDs in a broader sense.
  • One participant emphasizes that their statement about all diodes being LEDs is based on optoelectronic principles rather than other physical distinctions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and distinctions between LEDs and regular diodes. Some agree on the operational differences related to light emission, while others contest the definitions and implications of radiation emitted by diodes.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of LEDs and diodes, as well as the implications of radiation emission. The discussion includes references to quantum mechanics and semiconductor physics that may require further exploration for full understanding.

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This is probably a stupid question but here it is:

I am just learning concepts of LEDs. To me, it seems that there is no difference between LED and normal diodes. In normal diodes in forward bias, electrons come from n type and recombine in p type right? In this process photon should be emitted. Why we don't see that photon in normal diodes?

It says here in my textbook that same happen with LEDs. But what to you know normal diodes don't emit light and LEDs do :D
 
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Bassalisk said:
This is probably a stupid question but here it is:

I am just learning concepts of LEDs. To me, it seems that there is no difference between LED and normal diodes. In normal diodes in forward bias, electrons come from n type and recombine in p type right? In this process photon should be emitted. Why we don't see that photon in normal diodes?

It says here in my textbook that same happen with LEDs. But what to you know normal diodes don't emit light and LEDs do :D

Here is an explanation of how the light is created:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_recombination

The bandgap in LEDs are designed for radiative recombination, while the bandgap in diodes are not.
More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indirect_band_gap

This is also why a diode only has a voltage drop of about .65 volts and LEDs have voltage drops of generally around 2Volts or higher depending on the wavelength(color) they emit.

Schottky diodes rely on an even different process called thermionic emission where the energy to cross a semiconductor-metal junction is based on the work function between the semiconductor material and a metal contact.

Zener diodes work much the same as a normal diode however they are doped such that electrons can tunnel bacl through the semiconductor junction at a high enough reverse energy/voltage.
 
Thank you for your explanation. I will have to go to QM to understand that, I was just wondering.

Thanks
 
All diodes are LEDs but you can't see the radiation.

Solar cells are also LEDs. All diodes are solar cells and so are LEDs.
 
Antiphon said:
All diodes are LEDs but you can't see the radiation.

Solar cells are also LEDs. All diodes are solar cells and so are LEDs.

Everything gives off radiation, I don't think that's the point or a good distinction.
 
Its not the distinction I'm making. My statement stands on it's face as an optoelectronic statement of fact, not a resort to other physical principles.
 

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