Lemon battery without copper and zinc metals

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The discussion centers around the feasibility of lighting an LED using a single lemon without the traditional copper and zinc electrodes. Participants conclude that the video demonstrating this concept is likely a hoax, as a lemon alone cannot generate sufficient voltage without dissimilar metals. Theoretical alternatives, such as using magnesium or copper plating on the LED legs, are mentioned, but they would still not produce reliable results. The consensus is that the video is misleading and potentially employs hidden components to create the illusion of functionality.

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Hello,

I have seen a video online that shows how a LED can be lit using a single lemon without using a copper and a zinc nail. They simply stick the LED into the lemon.

What does that work? I know the lemon contains the electrolyte but don't we always need to dissimilar metals for the battery to work?
thanks!
 
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I think you need a lime for it to work.:rolleyes:
 
yeah, true. But why?
 
fog37 said:
yeah, true. But why?

It was a joke, the video is a poor fake.
 
If you wanted to fake it, could you plate one leg with zinc? It would look silver on a video and maybe pass for an "untreated" LED. The anodic index of silver solder is the same as copper according to the table here:
http://www.engineersedge.com/galvanic_capatability.htm
 
Let say you had a single cell made with a magnesium/copper plated tiny surface reaction area legs LED that might give 1.6 volts (the penny/nail open voltage is about 0.9) open circuit and drop to half that voltage value with a few micro-amp load because of high internal resistance. Would that work to light an LED?
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fog37 said:
I have seen a video online that shows how a LED can be lit using a single lemon without using a copper and a zinc nail. They simply stick the LED into the lemon.
Possibly there could be concealed wires or a battery buried inside the fruit?
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Possibly there could be concealed wires or a battery buried inside the fruit?

It is definitely a shoop. I can tell from the pixels. Third one from the left has shifty eyes.

BoB
 

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