Levers, torque and the (non?) linear relationship

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The discussion centers on the relationship between lever length, torque, and the force applied, specifically questioning the assumption of linearity in this relationship. The participant calculated a force of 70.8% based on a presumed linear relationship, which they later challenged by considering the angle of force application. The conversation emphasizes the importance of defining the axis of rotation and the direction of force in mechanics. It concludes that the relationship between lever length and force is not strictly linear, necessitating a more nuanced understanding of torque dynamics.

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Homework Statement
What is the relative force applied to the bar bend to 45 degrees?
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I'm unsure what equation to use to achieve this. My solution was to draw a scale model and measure the distance offset from the bar and how relative that was to the same length bar bent to 90 degrees.

My answer was 70.8% assuming a linear relationship between length of lever and force (is that right?). I've made the possibly incorrect assumption that if you double the length of a lever you double the force.

The answer requires a descriptive answer relating angle to force applied, so to me it doesn't appear linear (or it would be 50%?) but what is it? How best describes the relationship?
 

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This type of problems should always define the axis of rotation, as well as the direction of the force in relation to that axis.
The schematic shows percentages of torque at one end, but at the same time asks about intensity of applied force.
It seems to me that they should assume the same force is applied for the three cases.
 

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