LHC Experiments Challenge Speed of Light: 22nd Sept News

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The discussion centers around recent experimental results from the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) suggesting that neutrinos may have exceeded the speed of light, a finding that challenges established physics, particularly Einstein's theory of relativity. Participants are exploring the implications of these results and seeking further information on the topic.

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  • Some participants express intrigue over the reported results from the LHC, which indicate neutrinos arriving earlier than expected, potentially exceeding the speed of light.
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  • Another participant suggests a possible connection between the neutrinos' behavior and the concept of extra dimensions.
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"Speed-of-light experiments yield baffling result at LHC" - 22nd Sept News Article?!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

Puzzling results from Cern, home of the LHC, have confounded physicists - because it appears subatomic particles have exceeded the speed of light.

Neutrinos sent through the ground from Cern toward the Gran Sasso laboratory 732km away seemed to show up a few billionths of a second early.

The results will soon be online to draw closer scrutiny to a result that, if true, would upend a century of physics.

The lab's research director called it "an apparently unbelievable result".

The speed of light is the Universe's ultimate speed limit, and the entirety of modern physics - as laid out in part by Albert Einstein in his theory of relativity - depends on the idea that nothing can exceed it.

Thousands of experiments have been undertaken to measure it ever more precisely, and no result has ever spotted a particle breaking the limit.

But Antonio Ereditato of the Opera collaboration and his colleagues have been carrying out an experiment for the last three years that seems to suggest neutrinos have done just that.

Neutrinos come in a number of types, and have recently been seen to switch spontaneously from one type to another.

Dr Ereditato and his colleagues prepare a beam of just one type, muon neutrinos, sending them from Cern to an underground laboratory at Gran Sasso in Italy to see how many show up as a different type, tau neutrinos.

In the course of doing the experiments, the researchers noticed that the particles showed up 60 billionths of a second sooner than light would over the same distance.

The team measured the travel times of neutrino bunches some 15,000 times, and have reached a level of statistical significance that in scientific circles would count as a formal discovery.

But because the result is so unexpected and would wreak such havoc with our understanding of the Universe, the group is being particularly cautious. They have opted to put a report of their measurements online to subject them to wider scrutiny, and will hold a seminar at Cern on Friday to discuss the result.

Came here to get some further information and I can't find a thread. If there already is one about this, sorry I should delete it. Very interesting result...
 
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As soon as I read news of this, I came to these forums.. I didn't see a post elsewhere though... this is definitely interesting!
 


Actually, there is one on the SR and GR sub forum...And that is also why I came back here to see. :)
 


Maybe this has something to do with neutrinos being in extra dimensions?
 

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