LHC first beam (end of world) time announced

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The discussion revolves around the announcement of the first attempt to circulate a beam in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) on 10 September 2008. Participants touch on the implications of this event, including humorous references to apocalyptic beliefs and technical details about the beam circulation process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the LHC's first beam circulation attempt, indicating it is a significant milestone.
  • One participant questions whether the "(end of world)" phrasing is a joke or a serious belief, suggesting a concern about misinterpretation.
  • Another participant clarifies that the September 10 date refers to the first proton beam circulating, not the first collision, and provides details about the operational procedure, including the direction of the beam and the cautious approach to avoid damage.
  • A humorous remark is made about the timing of potential catastrophic events in relation to the academic calendar.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the announcement is significant, but there is a mix of humor and skepticism regarding the implications of the LHC's operation, particularly concerning apocalyptic beliefs. The technical details about the beam circulation process are discussed without clear consensus on the seriousness of the "end of the world" comment.

Contextual Notes

Some technical assumptions are made regarding the operation of the LHC, such as the handling of proton density and magnet settings, which may not be fully explained or agreed upon by all participants.

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Readers interested in particle physics, the Large Hadron Collider, or the cultural implications of scientific advancements may find this discussion relevant.

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"Geneva, 7 August 2008. CERN1 has today announced that the first attempt to circulate a beam in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) will be made on 10 September."

http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2008/PR06.08E.html
 
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That's cool. About time too.

So by putting "(end of world)" are you feeding into some people's idiotic belief's or stating your own?
 
I'm pretty sure he was joking.
 
Good.
 
Er.. that isn't really the end of the world. That Sept. 10 date is first proton beam circulating in the LHC, not the first collision. I was told it will be counterclockwise (looking from the top). They then will switch and get the proton beam to go the other way (cw), and then they'll switch it back to see if that will work again like the first time. During this test, they will use a very small fraction of the protons that will eventually be used, because they know they'll get the magnet setting not quite right and the protons will hit the walls of the vacuum beam line. You don't want to incur proton damage right away by flooding it with the full proton density per bunch.

In other words, the end of the world will come later, probably in early October, thank you. :)

Zz.
 
Man, I was hoping the end of the world was going to happen before school starts again. :(
 

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